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> If you don't want to watch the ads that are posted, that's your right. But someone has to fork over cash for hosting and bandwidth (and paying staff, so they

> If you don't want to watch the ads that are posted, that's your right. But someone has to fork over cash for hosting and bandwidth (and paying staff, so they can pay their bills), and I'm guessing you're not that person. That's also not my problem. They put their content in a public space, so I'm free to consume it as I will. If they would like control over that interaction, they're free to take their content to a private space where they can enforce whatever rules they would like. That private space probably isn't nearly as profitable, but their business plan is also not my problem. I don't feel any obligation to let them reap the rewards of being publicly accessible, while negating any drawbacks via social convention. They have a solution if they want to force people to watch ads, I'd encourage them to take it if this is so important. I'm not going to change behavior to support their business plan. Shopping malls put in parking lots and bathrooms. The goal is for shoppers to use them, but we all accept that people who aren't buying anything use them. This is the same thing. Being publicly accessible comes with costs, and the business can either decide being public is worth it and pay them, or decide they aren't and shut off public access. Ads are the same thing. I don't feel bad about using ad blockers any more than I feel bad about walking around the mall for exercise or using their bathroom and deciding not to buy anything.

throw0101b 3y ago
> Ads are the same thing. I don't feel bad about using ad blockers any more than I feel bad about walking around the mall for exercise or using their bathroom and deciding not to buy anything. The terms of service for a mall are different than the terms of service for Youtube. * https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599 https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599 * https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#c3e2907ca8 https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#c3e2907ca8 A little while ago someone was charged in Canada for theft because he did a gas-and-dash at a petrol station, and his defence was that the pump was in a publicly available space. The judge was having none of it. My front yard is publicly available, but that doesn't mean someone can pitch a tent and have a campout. Just because Youtube's web page isn't completely behind a login doesn't mean what's on it is ripe for the taking in any way you see fit. If you don't want to watch ads on Youtube, why don't you simply stop watching Youtube (or pay for Youtube Premium)?
- asadotzler 3y ago
  TOS that aren't enforceable for the most part because they're not a binding contract. If Google responds to my browser's request for content by sending that content, I'm free to watch it how I like, including not watching it or not watching parts of it. It's really that simple, no matter how much you'd like to obfuscate.

throw0101b 3y ago

> Ads are the same thing. I don't feel bad about using ad blockers any more than I feel bad about walking around the mall for exercise or using their bathroom and deciding not to buy anything. The terms of service for a mall are different than the terms of service for Youtube. * https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599 https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599 * https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#c3e2907ca8 https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#c3e2907ca8 A little while ago someone was charged in Canada for theft because he did a gas-and-dash at a petrol station, and his defence was that the pump was in a publicly available space. The judge was having none of it. My front yard is publicly available, but that doesn't mean someone can pitch a tent and have a campout. Just because Youtube's web page isn't completely behind a login doesn't mean what's on it is ripe for the taking in any way you see fit. If you don't want to watch ads on Youtube, why don't you simply stop watching Youtube (or pay for Youtube Premium)?

asadotzler 3y ago
TOS that aren't enforceable for the most part because they're not a binding contract. If Google responds to my browser's request for content by sending that content, I'm free to watch it how I like, including not watching it or not watching parts of it. It's really that simple, no matter how much you'd like to obfuscate.