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Employees hate working for companies where they have no voice too. Morale will drop and attrition will skyrocket. New talent won't consider OpenAI, existing tal

by spaceman_2020 3y ago

Employees hate working for companies where they have no voice too. Morale will drop and attrition will skyrocket. New talent won't consider OpenAI, existing talent will leave. The investment goes to zero anyway without talent.

15457345234 3y ago
> New talent won't consider OpenAI I think you can assume that there's a large pool of talent that would love to work at OpenAI, they were just turned off by the ... vibes ... coming from the e/acc locksteppy types. It may be very easy to re-hire talent that's actually a lot smarter, if a bit less 'mission focussed.'
- phpisthebest 3y ago
  >>they were just turned off by the ... vibes ... So they just need to hire some Gen Z [1], not to actually make AI technology but to make "good vibes" [1] https://nypost.com/2023/11/18/lifestyle/gen-z-workers-say-they-should-be-hired-for-their-personality/ https://nypost.com/2023/11/18/lifestyle/gen-z-workers-say-th... >>I think you can assume that there's a large pool of talent Why would we assume that? Every company in the US currently is complaining endlessly about the lack of talent, in IT especially I see posts from hiring managers being unable to find tech talent, and the fact that several companies are making very aggressive plays at getting OpenAI worker right now tells me there is not infact a "large pool of talent" that will just back fill all of these roles.
  - 15457345234 3y ago
    > in IT especially I see posts from hiring managers being unable to find tech talent Hasn't the sector been aggressively laying off for the past 6 months? I mean, there have been many many many posts about it here.
    - phpisthebest 3y ago
      you have confused "tech company layoffs" with "tech worker layoffs" Alot of Tech companies have been laying off alot of support staff in HR, Recruitment, Sales, and other business functions and yes some Technical roles as well, but dont think because you see "Google Lays of X,000 employees" means they just laid off that many AI Researchers, programmers, etc...
otteromkram 3y ago
Plenty of talent flooding the market right now. Say, what agenda are you trying to push, spaceman? This is the second comment of yours in this thread trying to make it seem like everyone at OpenAI is irreplaceable, so maybe you missed the hundreds of thousands of tech layoffs this year in the US.
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- jacquesm 3y ago
  Not that level talent though. If you know where to find a hundred or so people of the caliber that OpenAI has managed to attract so far you should get into the recruiting business pronto because you could make a few million easily.
- spaceman_2020 3y ago
  Not all talent is the same. This field is small and nascent enough that there are really only a small number of people who can build something like GPT-4.
omeze 3y ago
New talent will consider any place that pays 300k base :)

15457345234 3y ago

> New talent won't consider OpenAI I think you can assume that there's a large pool of talent that would love to work at OpenAI, they were just turned off by the ... vibes ... coming from the e/acc locksteppy types. It may be very easy to re-hire talent that's actually a lot smarter, if a bit less 'mission focussed.'

phpisthebest 3y ago
>>they were just turned off by the ... vibes ... So they just need to hire some Gen Z [1], not to actually make AI technology but to make "good vibes" [1] https://nypost.com/2023/11/18/lifestyle/gen-z-workers-say-they-should-be-hired-for-their-personality/ https://nypost.com/2023/11/18/lifestyle/gen-z-workers-say-th... >>I think you can assume that there's a large pool of talent Why would we assume that? Every company in the US currently is complaining endlessly about the lack of talent, in IT especially I see posts from hiring managers being unable to find tech talent, and the fact that several companies are making very aggressive plays at getting OpenAI worker right now tells me there is not infact a "large pool of talent" that will just back fill all of these roles.
- 15457345234 3y ago
  > in IT especially I see posts from hiring managers being unable to find tech talent Hasn't the sector been aggressively laying off for the past 6 months? I mean, there have been many many many posts about it here.
  - phpisthebest 3y ago
    you have confused "tech company layoffs" with "tech worker layoffs" Alot of Tech companies have been laying off alot of support staff in HR, Recruitment, Sales, and other business functions and yes some Technical roles as well, but dont think because you see "Google Lays of X,000 employees" means they just laid off that many AI Researchers, programmers, etc...

otteromkram 3y ago

Plenty of talent flooding the market right now. Say, what agenda are you trying to push, spaceman? This is the second comment of yours in this thread trying to make it seem like everyone at OpenAI is irreplaceable, so maybe you missed the hundreds of thousands of tech layoffs this year in the US.

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jacquesm 3y ago
Not that level talent though. If you know where to find a hundred or so people of the caliber that OpenAI has managed to attract so far you should get into the recruiting business pronto because you could make a few million easily.
spaceman_2020 3y ago
Not all talent is the same. This field is small and nascent enough that there are really only a small number of people who can build something like GPT-4.

omeze 3y ago

New talent will consider any place that pays 300k base :)