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The acid test for this is, if its OK for the FBI to spy on you as a citizen, then cool, we need the right to spy on the FBI agent and his family members -- why

by xt00 3y ago

The acid test for this is, if its OK for the FBI to spy on you as a citizen, then cool, we need the right to spy on the FBI agent and his family members -- why does he get to spy on me and my family members when there is zero reason for them to do that? I don't have anything to hide, and neither should he, so its all kosher right?

soulofmischief 3y ago
You should be able to do just about anything they claim is legal without needing probable cause or a warrant. I don't know what America Chris Wray is from, but in my America, law officers should not get any special treatment when it comes to this. The same arguments that would constitute your actions as stalking should apply to the FBI, if they are engaging in the same set of behaviors while operating outside of any special judicial framework such as a warrant.
- phpisthebest 3y ago
  The single greatest problem we have in government today is the fact that over the years we have added more and more exclusions, exemptions, and privileges for "law enforcement" Rules for thee but not for me is the height of government tyranny, and today that is at all levels of governance from something as simple as parking enforcement all the up to lethal force No government agent should be exempt from the law, no government agent should have special rights.
  - blooalien 3y ago
    > "The single greatest problem we have in government today is" ... Well, *one* of the greatest problems, anyway... Another similar related one is most of our politicians bein' pretty much fully "bought and paid for" by corporate interests, and money / power bein' far more important to them than human lives.
rightbyte 3y ago
National insecurity something something. You know. Some are more equal than others.
Teever 3y ago
I agree with this one hundred percent. I wish there was some sort of organization that coordinated OSINT efforts on law enforcement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance
- aa-jv 3y ago
  Don't worry. The grass roots have got this .. https://www.youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit https://www.youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit
kenjackson 3y ago
I think I believe the problem isn’t lack of privacy, buts unilateral privacy. I’d be willing to get rid of most of my privacy, iff everyone else did too. But when you’re a target and you don’t even know who is looking, that feels like the problem.

by xt00 3y ago

soulofmischief 3y ago

You should be able to do just about anything they claim is legal without needing probable cause or a warrant. I don't know what America Chris Wray is from, but in my America, law officers should not get any special treatment when it comes to this. The same arguments that would constitute your actions as stalking should apply to the FBI, if they are engaging in the same set of behaviors while operating outside of any special judicial framework such as a warrant.

phpisthebest 3y ago
The single greatest problem we have in government today is the fact that over the years we have added more and more exclusions, exemptions, and privileges for "law enforcement" Rules for thee but not for me is the height of government tyranny, and today that is at all levels of governance from something as simple as parking enforcement all the up to lethal force No government agent should be exempt from the law, no government agent should have special rights.
- blooalien 3y ago
  > "The single greatest problem we have in government today is" ... Well, *one* of the greatest problems, anyway... Another similar related one is most of our politicians bein' pretty much fully "bought and paid for" by corporate interests, and money / power bein' far more important to them than human lives.

rightbyte 3y ago

National insecurity something something. You know. Some are more equal than others.

Teever 3y ago

I agree with this one hundred percent. I wish there was some sort of organization that coordinated OSINT efforts on law enforcement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance

aa-jv 3y ago
Don't worry. The grass roots have got this .. https://www.youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit https://www.youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit

kenjackson 3y ago

I think I believe the problem isn’t lack of privacy, buts unilateral privacy. I’d be willing to get rid of most of my privacy, iff everyone else did too. But when you’re a target and you don’t even know who is looking, that feels like the problem.