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* Price discrimination is not illegal * Google has been claiming they aren't monopoly because Apple exists * Clearly knowing such secret deal pisses off other c

* Price discrimination is not illegal * Google has been claiming they aren't monopoly because Apple exists * Clearly knowing such secret deal pisses off other customers and yet there are no alternative market for the Android platform It's a very unfair(?) place to be for an app devs to pay the % tax when Google spends one-time fee for reviewing the app + other I/O costs

lrvick 3y ago
There is no alternative market on Apple. On Android there is F-Droid. Your app has to be open source to be on it though which most companies would never concede to as it would expose how much anti-user tracking they do.
- cherryteastain 3y ago
  Also afaik F-Droid insist on building apks directly from source, so non FOSS apps basically can never use it even if they are ok with showing the tracking they do.
  - crtasm 3y ago
    They can, but they'd need to run their own repository. F-Droid makes it easy to add other repos. https://f-droid.org/tutorials/create-repo/ https://f-droid.org/tutorials/create-repo/ https://f-droid.org/tutorials/add-repo/ https://f-droid.org/tutorials/add-repo/
  - Moldoteck 3y ago
    even if this was true, you can make the app fully oss but most of the main logic would be handled by the server
    - askiiart 3y ago
      Why are we even discussing F-Droid here? The topic at hand is whether Google has a monopoly on the Android app market, not whether anyone can put their app on F-Droid, and there are plenty of alternative app stores besides F-Droid.
      - Moldoteck 3y ago
        Why is it a monopoly? Can't you install other app store?
        askiiart 3y ago
        Sorry if that was unclear, I meant that they don't. I'm just confused as to why we're talking about F-Droid specifically.
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- jeroenhd 3y ago
  Setting up your own F-Droid repo is quick and easy, I've done it myself. Adding the repo can be done by copying the link or scanning a QR code. I'm sure companies would prefer a platform where they can pay money to get featured on the front page which comes with their repo preloaded, but if you're a small app business, hosting an F-Droid repo for test releases and perhaps releases for non-Google phones, you can get rid of the auto-updater if you just point people at F-Droid.
px1999 3y ago
> Price discrimination is not illegal The Play store operates in many jurisdictions, including some where this is borderline or could be deemed to be illegal I hope that some of those jurisdictions start showing some teeth on this sort of anticompetitive behavior
Moldoteck 3y ago
there are other markets for android: from samsung & huawei at least(was it called petal apps?). There's also fdroid. So at least for android it's not that bad

lrvick 3y ago

There is no alternative market on Apple. On Android there is F-Droid. Your app has to be open source to be on it though which most companies would never concede to as it would expose how much anti-user tracking they do.

cherryteastain 3y ago
Also afaik F-Droid insist on building apks directly from source, so non FOSS apps basically can never use it even if they are ok with showing the tracking they do.
- crtasm 3y ago
  They can, but they'd need to run their own repository. F-Droid makes it easy to add other repos. https://f-droid.org/tutorials/create-repo/ https://f-droid.org/tutorials/create-repo/ https://f-droid.org/tutorials/add-repo/ https://f-droid.org/tutorials/add-repo/
- Moldoteck 3y ago
  even if this was true, you can make the app fully oss but most of the main logic would be handled by the server
  - askiiart 3y ago
    Why are we even discussing F-Droid here? The topic at hand is whether Google has a monopoly on the Android app market, not whether anyone can put their app on F-Droid, and there are plenty of alternative app stores besides F-Droid.
    - Moldoteck 3y ago
      Why is it a monopoly? Can't you install other app store?
      - askiiart 3y ago
        Sorry if that was unclear, I meant that they don't. I'm just confused as to why we're talking about F-Droid specifically.
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jeroenhd 3y ago
Setting up your own F-Droid repo is quick and easy, I've done it myself. Adding the repo can be done by copying the link or scanning a QR code. I'm sure companies would prefer a platform where they can pay money to get featured on the front page which comes with their repo preloaded, but if you're a small app business, hosting an F-Droid repo for test releases and perhaps releases for non-Google phones, you can get rid of the auto-updater if you just point people at F-Droid.

px1999 3y ago

> Price discrimination is not illegal The Play store operates in many jurisdictions, including some where this is borderline or could be deemed to be illegal I hope that some of those jurisdictions start showing some teeth on this sort of anticompetitive behavior

Moldoteck 3y ago

there are other markets for android: from samsung & huawei at least(was it called petal apps?). There's also fdroid. So at least for android it's not that bad