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There certainly are a lot of less effective places for protesting. If protesting in front of a politician's personal residence is what it takes to be heard that

There certainly are a lot of less effective places for protesting. If protesting in front of a politician's personal residence is what it takes to be heard that's where people are going to do it.

conductr 3y ago
My kid is 4. He's learning the rules to soccer. If I wanted to teach him the most optimal way to steal the ball, I'd teach him to run up and scream in the other kids face until he got annoyed enough and handed the ball over. Efficiency and effectiveness by annoyance may be within the rules, but are shitty sportsmanship IMO
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  The other kid in your scenario doesn't have the power to tax, shoot, or jail your kid.
  - conductr 3y ago
    But he's on the field in his position rightfully so, he's not even breaking any rules, he just has the ball and my son wants it. The whole thing with democracy is, sometimes things don't go your way, and the rules for how to change it are all right there in front of you. The high up GP comment that this discussion branched off of was talking about 'labor negotiations', sure it effects someone and obviously the labor wants the negotiations to go their way, but if it doesn't?
    - ceejayoz 3y ago
      > But he's on the field in his position rightfully so, he's not even breaking any rules, he just has the ball and my son wants it. Soccer includes rules about sportsmanship; bad behavior gets you a yellow/red card. Politics doesn't have a referee nor much about sportsmanship. > The whole thing with democracy is, sometimes things don't go your way, and the rules for how to change it are all right there in front of you. Sure; one of those things allowed by said rules is public protest against elected officials.
      - conductr 3y ago
        I’m American, what do I know about soccer. It’s just an analogy. I’m ok disagreeing on this.

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There certainly are a lot of less effective places for protesting. If protesting in front of a politician's personal residence is what it takes to be heard that

by autoexec 3y ago

There certainly are a lot of less effective places for protesting. If protesting in front of a politician's personal residence is what it takes to be heard that's where people are going to do it.

conductr 3y ago
My kid is 4. He's learning the rules to soccer. If I wanted to teach him the most optimal way to steal the ball, I'd teach him to run up and scream in the other kids face until he got annoyed enough and handed the ball over. Efficiency and effectiveness by annoyance may be within the rules, but are shitty sportsmanship IMO
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  The other kid in your scenario doesn't have the power to tax, shoot, or jail your kid.
  - conductr 3y ago
    But he's on the field in his position rightfully so, he's not even breaking any rules, he just has the ball and my son wants it. The whole thing with democracy is, sometimes things don't go your way, and the rules for how to change it are all right there in front of you. The high up GP comment that this discussion branched off of was talking about 'labor negotiations', sure it effects someone and obviously the labor wants the negotiations to go their way, but if it doesn't?
    - ceejayoz 3y ago
      > But he's on the field in his position rightfully so, he's not even breaking any rules, he just has the ball and my son wants it. Soccer includes rules about sportsmanship; bad behavior gets you a yellow/red card. Politics doesn't have a referee nor much about sportsmanship. > The whole thing with democracy is, sometimes things don't go your way, and the rules for how to change it are all right there in front of you. Sure; one of those things allowed by said rules is public protest against elected officials.
      - conductr 3y ago
        I’m American, what do I know about soccer. It’s just an analogy. I’m ok disagreeing on this.