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> If you have kids aged 10-14, I’d love any feedback you have from trying it out with them. I can give you my feedback from when I was 10-11: I was trying to

> If you have kids aged 10-14, I’d love any feedback you have from trying it out with them. I can give you my feedback from when I was 10-11: I was trying to learn RPG Maker 2000 / XP's scripting which was kinda similar to this and got so frustrated by the limitations of the visual editor ( https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/27362763067155240/6C090E9E921C34F65A3F49EE250A76AF57BAD802/ https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/27362763067155240... ) that I went straight to learning C and C++, which I pretty much managed to a basic level. trust kids :)

zozbot234 3y ago
Yeah I think block editing is largely aimed at kids who literally wouldn't be able to comfortably type at a keyboard, which definitely wouldn't apply by the time you're 10.
whstl 3y ago
I don’t know much about this tech, but judging from the screenshot, it looks like a mix of imperative programming and visual editing that is the worst of both worlds. I’m not surprised you moved to C. (On the other hand, it looks like a super nifty way of having a primitive interpreted language without a parser/lexer) I feel like visual programming gets a bad rap because of things like this. As an electronic engineer that used to love LabView and life long user of NI Reaktor and Max/MSP, those tools are fantastic if you don’t approach them with an imperative programming mindset.
- jcelerier 3y ago
  > I feel like visual programming gets a bad rap because of things like this. As an electronic engineer that used to love LabView and life long user of NI Reaktor and Max/MSP, those tools are fantastic if you don’t approach them with an imperative programming mindset. aha, in the long run I ended up making https://ossia.io https://ossia.io which is as VPL as it can get. Yet it still embeds multiple textual languages.
  - whstl 3y ago
    Ah, this looks great. This is how you do it, by being able to customize by embedding you get the best of both worlds.

zozbot234 3y ago

Yeah I think block editing is largely aimed at kids who literally wouldn't be able to comfortably type at a keyboard, which definitely wouldn't apply by the time you're 10.

whstl 3y ago

I don’t know much about this tech, but judging from the screenshot, it looks like a mix of imperative programming and visual editing that is the worst of both worlds. I’m not surprised you moved to C. (On the other hand, it looks like a super nifty way of having a primitive interpreted language without a parser/lexer) I feel like visual programming gets a bad rap because of things like this. As an electronic engineer that used to love LabView and life long user of NI Reaktor and Max/MSP, those tools are fantastic if you don’t approach them with an imperative programming mindset.

jcelerier 3y ago
> I feel like visual programming gets a bad rap because of things like this. As an electronic engineer that used to love LabView and life long user of NI Reaktor and Max/MSP, those tools are fantastic if you don’t approach them with an imperative programming mindset. aha, in the long run I ended up making https://ossia.io https://ossia.io which is as VPL as it can get. Yet it still embeds multiple textual languages.
- whstl 3y ago
  Ah, this looks great. This is how you do it, by being able to customize by embedding you get the best of both worlds.