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Likewise. AdBlock feels slightly scummy to me - it's going out of your way to subvert the site's business model. NoScript doesn't automatically discriminate bet

Likewise. AdBlock feels slightly scummy to me - it's going out of your way to subvert the site's business model. NoScript doesn't automatically discriminate between ads and content, which feels... fairer. In fact, if I like your site, and it happens that NoScript is blocking your ads, I'll make a point of letting them through. http://www.projectwonderful.com/ http://www.projectwonderful.com/ is on my whitelist, for instance.

mistercow 15y ago
>it's going out of your way to subvert the site's business model When people sneak snacks into a movie theater they are not thinking "I am going to subvert this theater's business model". They are thinking "The normal way of getting snacks at the theater is unacceptable to me". The same is true with AdBlock. Nobody thinks "Mwahahaha, I'm going to financially ruin some content creators." They think "if I see one more punch-the-monkey ad, I'm going to punch an actual monkey". I mute TV commercials, I change the station on the radio when the commercials start, and I use AdBlock by default. If I really like a site, I will turn AdBlock off and see if its ads are acceptable. Usually, though, I turn it right back on.
- EvilTerran 15y ago
  Fair enough. I find NoScript alone does a good enough job of blocking ads for my liking.
LinXitoW 15y ago
AdBlock(afaik) directly blocks loading ads at all. Therefore, they are not counted as a view, because it isn't. I think it'd be a lot scummier if it loaded them, but didn't display them. That would wreck havoc with ad statistics and would drive down ad revenue.
Duff 15y ago
I can relate to that feeling. I usually don't start enabling Adblock until a site I frequent does something particularly noxious. One example was my local newspaper, which put this flash overlay of a local bigmouth car deal floating in the middle of the screen -- in a area that you typically click on. I click it by mistake and end up with a high-volume "it's huuuge" booming across my office. Screw that... adblock=on.
effigies 15y ago
Personally, I like Adblock Plus (Good Karma Edition). By default, it allows ads through, but blocking them on a website that uses them badly (which for me means flashing or making noise) is only a click away. My reason for using adblock is aesthetic, not paranoiac, so I'm willing to give sites the benefit of the doubt.
jff 15y ago
Project Wonderful is worth whitelisting simply to see the ads for everyone's exquisitely terrible webcomics.
- EvilTerran 15y ago
  Hey, they're not all terrible! ... okay, a lot of them are pretty terrible. But I suspect a lot of the terrible ones are drawn in by a desire to ride on the coat-tails of the not-so-terrible ones (Dr McNinja, SMBC, etc).

mistercow 15y ago

>it's going out of your way to subvert the site's business model When people sneak snacks into a movie theater they are not thinking "I am going to subvert this theater's business model". They are thinking "The normal way of getting snacks at the theater is unacceptable to me". The same is true with AdBlock. Nobody thinks "Mwahahaha, I'm going to financially ruin some content creators." They think "if I see one more punch-the-monkey ad, I'm going to punch an actual monkey". I mute TV commercials, I change the station on the radio when the commercials start, and I use AdBlock by default. If I really like a site, I will turn AdBlock off and see if its ads are acceptable. Usually, though, I turn it right back on.

EvilTerran 15y ago
Fair enough. I find NoScript alone does a good enough job of blocking ads for my liking.

LinXitoW 15y ago

AdBlock(afaik) directly blocks loading ads at all. Therefore, they are not counted as a view, because it isn't. I think it'd be a lot scummier if it loaded them, but didn't display them. That would wreck havoc with ad statistics and would drive down ad revenue.

Duff 15y ago

I can relate to that feeling. I usually don't start enabling Adblock until a site I frequent does something particularly noxious. One example was my local newspaper, which put this flash overlay of a local bigmouth car deal floating in the middle of the screen -- in a area that you typically click on. I click it by mistake and end up with a high-volume "it's huuuge" booming across my office. Screw that... adblock=on.

effigies 15y ago

Personally, I like Adblock Plus (Good Karma Edition). By default, it allows ads through, but blocking them on a website that uses them badly (which for me means flashing or making noise) is only a click away. My reason for using adblock is aesthetic, not paranoiac, so I'm willing to give sites the benefit of the doubt.

jff 15y ago

Project Wonderful is worth whitelisting simply to see the ads for everyone's exquisitely terrible webcomics.

EvilTerran 15y ago
Hey, they're not all terrible! ... okay, a lot of them are pretty terrible. But I suspect a lot of the terrible ones are drawn in by a desire to ride on the coat-tails of the not-so-terrible ones (Dr McNinja, SMBC, etc).