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They can cry out all they want. That's free speech too. But censorship doesn't happen until 13. The simple explanation is symmetry. Each one of these has a mi

They can cry out all they want. That's free speech too. But censorship doesn't happen until 13. The simple explanation is symmetry. Each one of these has a mirror action between the speaker and the responder to the speech. For example #12: The speaker (and their sympathizers) can refuse to use those banks and marketplaces (i.e., a boycott). As well, not allowing the marketplace to do that is forcing them to associate with that speaker. If I run a store, and I decide "I don't want to deal with Mr. X because I don't like how hateful he is.", why should I be forced to do business with him? 13 is the one that has no symmetry. We can not opt out of the government. That's why the line is there.

whatshisface 3y ago
What about these cases?: - A company cuts you off from their service, but you can't get it elsewhere because it is patented. - Google closes your @gmail.com address, which you can't obtain elsewhere because they own gmail.com - You build up a following on YouTube, but you end up with three strikes. There are no other long-form video websites with a fraction of the traffic. In all of these cases, you have a limited ability to withdraw from the company, but you are completely replaceable to it.
- TheCleric 3y ago
  This is as foolish as saying "It's not fair that John kicked me out of his sub shop just because he doesn't like me. He's the only one serving my favorite sandwich!" You have alternatives as long as you haven't talked yourself into "I have a RIGHT to use someone's particular business.", because you don't.
  - whatshisface 3y ago
    How about this?: - You're on the south pole, and the single supply depot becomes off-limits to you after a personal dispute with the attendant. Also, I am curious about what you'd suggest as an alternative to YouTube for the content creators that thrive there presently. TikTok doesn't do long form videos.
    - TheCleric 3y ago
      I would suggest finding another job aside from "content creator". If the only way you can have a certain career is by the whims of a single company, then you have two choices: become comfortable with the fact that you may not have that career for long and/or do everything you can to keep that company happy.
      - whatshisface 3y ago
        There are many countries in the world, and most of them allow citizens to leave. Why not emigrate if your government is oppressing you? The truth is that the costs of leaving are what attach people to governments and make their interactions not entirely voluntary. The same principle applies to companies.

whatshisface 3y ago

What about these cases?: - A company cuts you off from their service, but you can't get it elsewhere because it is patented. - Google closes your @gmail.com address, which you can't obtain elsewhere because they own gmail.com - You build up a following on YouTube, but you end up with three strikes. There are no other long-form video websites with a fraction of the traffic. In all of these cases, you have a limited ability to withdraw from the company, but you are completely replaceable to it.

TheCleric 3y ago
This is as foolish as saying "It's not fair that John kicked me out of his sub shop just because he doesn't like me. He's the only one serving my favorite sandwich!" You have alternatives as long as you haven't talked yourself into "I have a RIGHT to use someone's particular business.", because you don't.
- whatshisface 3y ago
  How about this?: - You're on the south pole, and the single supply depot becomes off-limits to you after a personal dispute with the attendant. Also, I am curious about what you'd suggest as an alternative to YouTube for the content creators that thrive there presently. TikTok doesn't do long form videos.
  - TheCleric 3y ago
    I would suggest finding another job aside from "content creator". If the only way you can have a certain career is by the whims of a single company, then you have two choices: become comfortable with the fact that you may not have that career for long and/or do everything you can to keep that company happy.
    - whatshisface 3y ago
      There are many countries in the world, and most of them allow citizens to leave. Why not emigrate if your government is oppressing you? The truth is that the costs of leaving are what attach people to governments and make their interactions not entirely voluntary. The same principle applies to companies.