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>YouTube has an option to pay for your usage, too, and you’ll never see an ad if you use it. Not exactly true anymore, because ad revenue direct from Youtube s

>YouTube has an option to pay for your usage, too, and you’ll never see an ad if you use it. Not exactly true anymore, because ad revenue direct from Youtube sucks, creators were forced to start taking sponsorship deals and advertise directly in the videos. Raid Shadow Legends being the meme sponsor points to how prevalent this practice is now.

acdha 3y ago
Those ads aren’t from YouTube but also consider whether creators like doing that or are doing so because people aren’t willing to pay them directly or watch ads. YouTube premium pays better than ads according to most sources so the easiest way to not have sponsorship ads is to pay the artists rather than complaining when they get their rent money from someone who does.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
  That's not even close to true, most subscription services still advertise on top of it.
  - acdha 3y ago
    That is true here, but also it’s a free market. If you don’t like it, stop supporting those businesses and help someone whose practices match your values. The amount of sophistry people will expend to say that they have no choice but to keep watching YouTube is absurd.
    - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
      Some people think dancing is immoral, yet I shall continue to dance. I don't really care what you think about my behavior, I'm going to continue consuming youtube ad-free and I'll do so with no other justification than because I can and I can because they give it away for free.
- I_Am_Nous 3y ago
  "Sure creators, we'll give you more ad revenue just as soon as people start paying us!" My individual contributions, Premium or not, are tiny in the grand scheme of things. Similar to me buying an EV and feeling better about myself "solving climate change", giving Google money so they will feed that poor, starving content creator an extra morsel of revenue misses the mark entirely. Google is asking creators to rely on them to get their bills paid. Google doesn't pay them enough so they have to get revenue some other way. This is also similar to Walmart not paying workers enough but spinning it as a good thing because then they can qualify for food stamps.
  - acdha 3y ago
    Google isn’t holding a gun to anyone’s head. Creators are there because they get paid better than elsewhere. Your choice is paying or not paying the people who make what you like. If you continue to use YouTube but don’t watch ads or pay for premium, you’re choosing the latter option even if you don’t like to acknowledge what you’re doing.
    - I_Am_Nous 3y ago
      Isn't Google still getting relevant ad data from me regardless? If I watch a video indicating I am interested in a topic, Google now has a hint to give me ads for that topic all across the internet. Even if I don't watch ads on Youtube, I'm giving them data they can monetize against my ad profile. That's not worth nothing. In fact, that data is the whole reason Google is currently in business. So I'm expected to sell them my data and accept them using that data against me before I am allowed to watch a video, and while I watch a video, and after I watch a video, and anytime I go anywhere on the internet...Google might want Youtube to pay for itself, but Google is already being paid via my data. And has been for years.
      - acdha 3y ago
        They monetize that by selling ads so no, you aren’t paying anyway, you’re just freeloading. If you didn’t have an ad blocker (or used Premium) the creators of your videos would be getting paid for you watching.
PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
And it should be noted when content creators embed advertisements directly into the video I skip over it. This framing is all wrong, it's not my responsibility to ensure someone elses business model is viable.
- I_Am_Nous 3y ago
  >This framing is all wrong, it's not my responsibility to ensure someone elses business model is viable. 100% agree. There is a building in my town that has had multiple restaurants come and go. I don't eat out much so when I see a local business closing down, I feel bad that they went out of business but I certainly don't feel like it was my fault. Content creators are not my dependents and it's my opinion Google should be making it worth their while to upload videos so they don't have to get annoying sponsored segments.

acdha 3y ago

Those ads aren’t from YouTube but also consider whether creators like doing that or are doing so because people aren’t willing to pay them directly or watch ads. YouTube premium pays better than ads according to most sources so the easiest way to not have sponsorship ads is to pay the artists rather than complaining when they get their rent money from someone who does.

PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
That's not even close to true, most subscription services still advertise on top of it.
- acdha 3y ago
  That is true here, but also it’s a free market. If you don’t like it, stop supporting those businesses and help someone whose practices match your values. The amount of sophistry people will expend to say that they have no choice but to keep watching YouTube is absurd.
  - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
    Some people think dancing is immoral, yet I shall continue to dance. I don't really care what you think about my behavior, I'm going to continue consuming youtube ad-free and I'll do so with no other justification than because I can and I can because they give it away for free.
I_Am_Nous 3y ago
"Sure creators, we'll give you more ad revenue just as soon as people start paying us!" My individual contributions, Premium or not, are tiny in the grand scheme of things. Similar to me buying an EV and feeling better about myself "solving climate change", giving Google money so they will feed that poor, starving content creator an extra morsel of revenue misses the mark entirely. Google is asking creators to rely on them to get their bills paid. Google doesn't pay them enough so they have to get revenue some other way. This is also similar to Walmart not paying workers enough but spinning it as a good thing because then they can qualify for food stamps.
- acdha 3y ago
  Google isn’t holding a gun to anyone’s head. Creators are there because they get paid better than elsewhere. Your choice is paying or not paying the people who make what you like. If you continue to use YouTube but don’t watch ads or pay for premium, you’re choosing the latter option even if you don’t like to acknowledge what you’re doing.
  - I_Am_Nous 3y ago
    Isn't Google still getting relevant ad data from me regardless? If I watch a video indicating I am interested in a topic, Google now has a hint to give me ads for that topic all across the internet. Even if I don't watch ads on Youtube, I'm giving them data they can monetize against my ad profile. That's not worth nothing. In fact, that data is the whole reason Google is currently in business. So I'm expected to sell them my data and accept them using that data against me before I am allowed to watch a video, and while I watch a video, and after I watch a video, and anytime I go anywhere on the internet...Google might want Youtube to pay for itself, but Google is already being paid via my data. And has been for years.
    - acdha 3y ago
      They monetize that by selling ads so no, you aren’t paying anyway, you’re just freeloading. If you didn’t have an ad blocker (or used Premium) the creators of your videos would be getting paid for you watching.

PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago

And it should be noted when content creators embed advertisements directly into the video I skip over it. This framing is all wrong, it's not my responsibility to ensure someone elses business model is viable.

I_Am_Nous 3y ago
>This framing is all wrong, it's not my responsibility to ensure someone elses business model is viable. 100% agree. There is a building in my town that has had multiple restaurants come and go. I don't eat out much so when I see a local business closing down, I feel bad that they went out of business but I certainly don't feel like it was my fault. Content creators are not my dependents and it's my opinion Google should be making it worth their while to upload videos so they don't have to get annoying sponsored segments.