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It is easy, but I'm terrified of getting my Google account banned. Do you do anything to avoid that?

by creata 3y ago

k8sToGo 3y ago
You can use an invidious instance for example. It can also act as a proxy.
_Algernon_ 3y ago
No. Of these mechanisms, the ones I have personally used (yt-dlp and TubeArchivist) do not rely on signing in with an account. They could ban my account on IP association alone, but that would result in massive false positives and backlash (everyone behind a VPN would be screwed for one).
- timetraveller26 3y ago
  What if I want my Watch for later videos, or a private playlist?
  - yencabulator 3y ago
    Supposedly you can do that separately from the naughty yt-dlp run with https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/playlistItems/list https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/playlistItems/... (I don't know what the playlist id for your Watch Later would be, and the API for listing playlists doesn't seem to work either. Fun.)
kurthr 3y ago
For all that is good, do not do this on an account that does anything else! Run it in the cloud, if you can on a separate IP, and stream it from there.
blagie 3y ago
Step 1: Buy a VPN subscription. It's about $3/month Step 2: Run script I'm a lot happier to pay for VPN and hard disks than for Google's bait-and-switch games. Youtube and Google became popular based on a social contract where I gave them by content, and now that it's a near-monopoly, they're breaking that social contract. That's not illegal, but it is sleazy, and I feel dirty giving money to support sleazy.
hexagonwin 3y ago
You don't need an account unless you're commenting. I get feeds for the channels I watch via RSS and use mpv with yt-dlp to play them.
- CodeWriter23 3y ago
  > You don't need an account unless you're commenting Or you want to continue feeding Google via your Gmail account. Or just plain old receive email and pretend that you're not feeding Google.
  - cesarb 3y ago
    > Gmail account. You don't need an account for youtube. I have a Google account for gmail, and since I use Android I unavoidably have a Google account because of it, but there's no reason to use that account for youtube. In fact, there is (or, at least, there used to be) a good reason to never use a Google account for youtube: they have (or, at least, used to have) a "real name" policy for youtube, so if they for some reason decide that your real name is not your real name, you could lose access to your whole Google account, including more important services like Google Talk. Therefore, whenever I watch any video on youtube, I very carefully make sure that the browser is not logged into the Google account, and watch it anonymously.
swozey 3y ago
I've had my Google play store account locked down for "fraud" (they never told me what it was) that caused all of my Google services to be stopped (googlefi, gmail, google domains, etc) and I could still always use their SSO to log in to things. I also make youtube comments with zero hesitation to harass Trump fans and am frequently suspended on youtube and it just stops me from being able to comment. My NAS has been using yt-dlp to download various Warhammer 40k videos from youtubers for 3+ years, I'm around 10TB. My working theory is there is no way to actually get banned from using google services permanently unless perhaps you do a charge back or something I haven't tried. I also do everything I can to not use google services after my "fraud" lockdown. I've made longer comments about it here before in my history if you want the full story.

It is easy, but I'm terrified of getting my Google account banned. Do you do anything to avoid that?

by creata 3y ago

It is easy, but I'm terrified of getting my Google account banned. Do you do anything to avoid that?

k8sToGo 3y ago

You can use an invidious instance for example. It can also act as a proxy.

_Algernon_ 3y ago

No. Of these mechanisms, the ones I have personally used (yt-dlp and TubeArchivist) do not rely on signing in with an account. They could ban my account on IP association alone, but that would result in massive false positives and backlash (everyone behind a VPN would be screwed for one).

timetraveller26 3y ago
What if I want my Watch for later videos, or a private playlist?
- yencabulator 3y ago
  Supposedly you can do that separately from the naughty yt-dlp run with https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/playlistItems/list https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/playlistItems/... (I don't know what the playlist id for your Watch Later would be, and the API for listing playlists doesn't seem to work either. Fun.)

kurthr 3y ago

For all that is good, do not do this on an account that does anything else! Run it in the cloud, if you can on a separate IP, and stream it from there.

blagie 3y ago

Step 1: Buy a VPN subscription. It's about $3/month Step 2: Run script I'm a lot happier to pay for VPN and hard disks than for Google's bait-and-switch games. Youtube and Google became popular based on a social contract where I gave them by content, and now that it's a near-monopoly, they're breaking that social contract. That's not illegal, but it is sleazy, and I feel dirty giving money to support sleazy.

hexagonwin 3y ago

You don't need an account unless you're commenting. I get feeds for the channels I watch via RSS and use mpv with yt-dlp to play them.

CodeWriter23 3y ago
> You don't need an account unless you're commenting Or you want to continue feeding Google via your Gmail account. Or just plain old receive email and pretend that you're not feeding Google.
- cesarb 3y ago
  > Gmail account. You don't need an account for youtube. I have a Google account for gmail, and since I use Android I unavoidably have a Google account because of it, but there's no reason to use that account for youtube. In fact, there is (or, at least, there used to be) a good reason to never use a Google account for youtube: they have (or, at least, used to have) a "real name" policy for youtube, so if they for some reason decide that your real name is not your real name, you could lose access to your whole Google account, including more important services like Google Talk. Therefore, whenever I watch any video on youtube, I very carefully make sure that the browser is not logged into the Google account, and watch it anonymously.

swozey 3y ago

I've had my Google play store account locked down for "fraud" (they never told me what it was) that caused all of my Google services to be stopped (googlefi, gmail, google domains, etc) and I could still always use their SSO to log in to things. I also make youtube comments with zero hesitation to harass Trump fans and am frequently suspended on youtube and it just stops me from being able to comment. My NAS has been using yt-dlp to download various Warhammer 40k videos from youtubers for 3+ years, I'm around 10TB. My working theory is there is no way to actually get banned from using google services permanently unless perhaps you do a charge back or something I haven't tried. I also do everything I can to not use google services after my "fraud" lockdown. I've made longer comments about it here before in my history if you want the full story.