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There are quite a few ferries with capacity around 30 passengers in service in Sweden. Most of them burning diesel.

MuffinFlavored 3y ago
Ah, shows how uncultured I am for not knowing that. I'm used to 30 people all crammed into one grocery aisle pushing each other for a $6 box of sugary cereal at WalMart in America so it seemed like an "insignificant" number in terms of transportation. (slightly kidding)
nemetroid 3y ago
There are? Where?
- m_eiman 3y ago
  In the archipelagos near Stockholm and Gothenburg, for example. There's a list of the nationally financed routes here: https://www.trafikverket.se/resa-och-trafik/farjetrafik/ https://www.trafikverket.se/resa-och-trafik/farjetrafik/ Then there are regionally and locally financed routes as well.
  - nemetroid 3y ago
    The ferries in that link are all road ferries. Most of them take at least 30 cars, and a lot more than 30 passengers. Most of the archipelago ferries in Gothenburg take around 300 passengers. The smallest one I could find on Styrsöbolaget's site takes 165: https://www.styrsobolaget.se/om-oss/fartyg/rivo https://www.styrsobolaget.se/om-oss/fartyg/rivo
    - eesmith 3y ago
      While not a ferry, it looks like Sweden has water taxis. Looking around I found a few listed at https://visitsweden.com/about-sweden/getting-around-stockholms-archipelago/ https://visitsweden.com/about-sweden/getting-around-stockhol... , for example, https://www.battaxi.se/our-boats https://www.battaxi.se/our-boats says the m/s Alma ("Our fast all-round boat") carries 20. I also found https://waxholmwatertaxi.com/services/taxi-boat/?lang=en https://waxholmwatertaxi.com/services/taxi-boat/?lang=en says "We offer Taxi Boat for 1-12 passengers throughout the Stockholm archipelago." I can imagine some people might pay good money for significantly faster transport + "eco friendly".
      - bertil 3y ago
        All those are private options for tourists and natural clients for Cadela; they explicitly want to go after the Commuter ferries 80, 82, 83, 89 [0] Each of those lines has a dozen boats to guarantee frequent service. Including the private options you listed, there are more than 100 boats in Stockholm alone, with 30 passengers or more. Every city in Scandinavia would likely want something similar; some (Olso, Copenhagen, Helsinki) already have a boat network for commuters and tourists, but every city on that list [1] has a bus network, is around a body of water, and would interested in a non-polluting option. I’d be surprised if they couldn’t sell thousands for public transport in the region alone — let alone lakes in the Alps, shuttles in the Mediterranean and more. [0] https://sl.se/en/in-english/getting-around/sl-service-network-maps https://sl.se/en/in-english/getting-around/sl-service-networ... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_in_the_Nordic_countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_in_the_Nor...
- JoachimS 3y ago
  The ferry between Kyrkesund and Härön is a good example. Yes, sorry for the Swedish chef bork bork, but the picture should be enough: https://www.vastsverige.com/sodrabohuslan/produkter/personfalja-kyrkesund---haron/ https://www.vastsverige.com/sodrabohuslan/produkter/personfa...

Ah, shows how uncultured I am for not knowing that. I'm used to 30 people all crammed into one grocery aisle pushing each other for a $6 box of sugary cereal at WalMart in America so it seemed like an "insignificant" number in terms of transportation. (slightly kidding)

nemetroid 3y ago

There are? Where?

m_eiman 3y ago
In the archipelagos near Stockholm and Gothenburg, for example. There's a list of the nationally financed routes here: https://www.trafikverket.se/resa-och-trafik/farjetrafik/ https://www.trafikverket.se/resa-och-trafik/farjetrafik/ Then there are regionally and locally financed routes as well.
- nemetroid 3y ago
  The ferries in that link are all road ferries. Most of them take at least 30 cars, and a lot more than 30 passengers. Most of the archipelago ferries in Gothenburg take around 300 passengers. The smallest one I could find on Styrsöbolaget's site takes 165: https://www.styrsobolaget.se/om-oss/fartyg/rivo https://www.styrsobolaget.se/om-oss/fartyg/rivo
  - eesmith 3y ago
    While not a ferry, it looks like Sweden has water taxis. Looking around I found a few listed at https://visitsweden.com/about-sweden/getting-around-stockholms-archipelago/ https://visitsweden.com/about-sweden/getting-around-stockhol... , for example, https://www.battaxi.se/our-boats https://www.battaxi.se/our-boats says the m/s Alma ("Our fast all-round boat") carries 20. I also found https://waxholmwatertaxi.com/services/taxi-boat/?lang=en https://waxholmwatertaxi.com/services/taxi-boat/?lang=en says "We offer Taxi Boat for 1-12 passengers throughout the Stockholm archipelago." I can imagine some people might pay good money for significantly faster transport + "eco friendly".
    - bertil 3y ago
      All those are private options for tourists and natural clients for Cadela; they explicitly want to go after the Commuter ferries 80, 82, 83, 89 [0] Each of those lines has a dozen boats to guarantee frequent service. Including the private options you listed, there are more than 100 boats in Stockholm alone, with 30 passengers or more. Every city in Scandinavia would likely want something similar; some (Olso, Copenhagen, Helsinki) already have a boat network for commuters and tourists, but every city on that list [1] has a bus network, is around a body of water, and would interested in a non-polluting option. I’d be surprised if they couldn’t sell thousands for public transport in the region alone — let alone lakes in the Alps, shuttles in the Mediterranean and more. [0] https://sl.se/en/in-english/getting-around/sl-service-network-maps https://sl.se/en/in-english/getting-around/sl-service-networ... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_in_the_Nordic_countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_in_the_Nor...
JoachimS 3y ago
The ferry between Kyrkesund and Härön is a good example. Yes, sorry for the Swedish chef bork bork, but the picture should be enough: https://www.vastsverige.com/sodrabohuslan/produkter/personfalja-kyrkesund---haron/ https://www.vastsverige.com/sodrabohuslan/produkter/personfa...