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> Second, we have a national ID already called a passport. That’s valid ID in the US and issued by the Federal government. I have one and so far the Feds haven’
by brightlancer 3y ago
> Second, we have a national ID already called a passport. That’s valid ID in the US and issued by the Federal government. I have one and so far the Feds haven’t come for me while I’ve slept or thrown me into whatever lies at the bottom of this slippery slope argument. Am I missing something?
"I did X and bad thing didn't happen, therefore bad things never happen as a consequence of X."
> Third, what makes the Feds worse than my State government?
Scale: 330M persons versus 1M - 40M persons. Also: budget, legal authority, known illegal abuses (Florida never tried to render a citizen to Gitmo).
> What stops Florida or New Mexico from turning State ID databases into a surveillance tool?
Not sure about NM, but FL has, as have many other states.
(In NM, I think the ABQ police just shoot first and identify later.)
> Is it possible we really have 50 slippery slopes to deal with?
50 states + 1 federal, yes.
> Again, I don’t understand where the fear is.
Mass surveillance of citizens, invasion of privacy, you know, things like that.
It doesn't have to turn into a Chinese social credit score for things to get bad.
- everforward 3y ago> Scale: 330M persons versus 1M - 40M persons. Also: budget, legal authority, known illegal abuses (Florida never tried to render a citizen to Gitmo). The jurisdiction of your ID doesn't change your legal jurisdiction. I.e. having a Florida ID instead of a federal ID won't prevent the feds sending you to Gitmo. > Mass surveillance of citizens, invasion of privacy, you know, things like that. The feds already have access to DMV data from all the states. I think there was a time where having to get data from state DMV's would have been a nominal hurdle, but not anymore. I'm on team federal ID these days because I don't think the feds get access to any additional data, and most state DMV's suck. It's easier to get a passport than a driver's license these days, I'm more confident in the feds ability to make a functional ID system.