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Sure, but whats stopping the police from saying, "If you don't stop filming me i'm going to shoot you"
by robbywashere_ 3y ago
Sure, but whats stopping the police from saying, "If you don't stop filming me i'm going to shoot you"
- cool_dude85 3y agoTheoretically, the same thing that stops you from saying it: you'll be charged with assault. Practically, the same thing that stops the police from shooting him: nothing.
- noodlesUK 3y agoHopefully the same thing that stops them from saying “if you don’t pay me a bribe I’m going to shoot you” or any other illegal order. The rule of law is important and whilst some of these auditors do unlikeable or distasteful things, if they are trying to stay within the law, they do provide a useful function of highlighting inconsistency between the rules as written and how they tend to operate in practice.
- tokai 3y agoYou know they keep shooting people and getting away with it right?
- zmgsabst 3y agoNo, not really: Of 10,000,000+ arrests per year, only around 1,000 end in death of which 20-50 had unarmed deceased. You’re more likely to die of a traffic accident this year (1 in 10,000) than die from police while being arrested unarmed (under 1 in 100,000). https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/polic...
- tokai 3y agoOh yeah? And 99% of terminal cancer patients die too. So traffic deaths are irrelevant following your logic. A frequency argument is useless here. It happens that people get shot by police when it is uncalled for, with no consequences for the murder other than some paid vacation time. It is documented. This is not a discussion of what is most deadly or if it is common.
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- Sirizarry 3y agoAn traffic accident and a conscious decision to kill by an officer of the law is NOT equivalent. You can’t allay peoples legitimate fears of authority with a statistic are you mad?
- stonogo 3y agoAnd how many of them were punished for shooting someone? You've come up with evidence unrelated to the accusation. The accusation was that cops keep shooting people and getting away with it. The proper counterargument is to demonstrate that cops either don't shoot people or don't get away with it, not that they only kill a thousand people a year. Plus, I don't like this implication that anyone armed deserves to die. Being armed is a constitutional right, not a murder justification.
- codedokode 3y agoYou can avoid cars, do not jaywalk, be extra careful and look around when crossing the street to reduce this probability though.
- alex_lav 3y agoIt's funny to suggest that an 20-50 people dead while unarmed by people employed very literally to Protect and Serve is somehow not a problem.
- empath-nirvana 3y agothe getting away with it part is the relevant bit.
- tremon 3y agoThe law?
- ceejayoz 3y agolol https://www.propublica.org/article/new-jersey-law-says-criminal-cops-should-go-to-jail-records-reveal-they-often-dont https://www.propublica.org/article/new-jersey-law-says-crimi... https://www.propublica.org/article/what-police-impunity-looks-like-there-was-no-discipline-as-no-wrongdoing-was-found https://www.propublica.org/article/what-police-impunity-look... https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/fired-cops-routinely-rehired-dc-california-2022-11-07/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/fired-cops-routinel... Examples abound of police escaping punishment and accountability despite clear violations of the law.
- tremon 3y agoThat doesn't prove my statement wrong. Got any examples of something other than the law stopping police officers from doing bad?
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- julienreszka 3y agoWhat is the second amendment