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Simultaneously irritating and "well yeah." No one likes ads or monthly subscriptions, but serving video is expensive, so why not deprioritize the users who are

Simultaneously irritating and "well yeah." No one likes ads or monthly subscriptions, but serving video is expensive, so why not deprioritize the users who are giving you zero dollars and zero cents?

timeon 3y ago
Why they bought popular free platform when they are struggling to maintain it? Youtube is go-to platform for video publishing because it started as free platform. When they captured this segment of web, they have overloaded it with ads. I do not expect anyone serving me for free. But it is not bearable when everything and everyone expects you to use these walled gardens.
- tg180 3y ago
  >when they are struggling to maintain it? YouTube is not losing money, it's a significant contributor to Alphabet's overall revenue. They are not struggling to maintain it, they're trying to milk the cash cow...
  - timeon 3y ago
    That is probably true. I was just reacting to: 'serving video is expensive'.
  - thaumasiotes 3y ago
    > YouTube is not losing money, it's a significant contributor to Alphabet's overall revenue. There's no contradiction between those two ideas. Something that loses a lot of money is more likely to be a significant contributor to revenue, because you can't lose a lot of money without seeing a lot of use. But why would anyone care about revenue? Is it a significant contributor to profit? Last I heard, Alphabet doesn't even provide a breakdown of how much of its money comes from YouTube.
- krsrhe 3y ago
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- nickthegreek 3y ago
  How is youtube a walled garden?
  - timeon 3y ago
    I consider tracking [0] and excessive Ads as wall. Many sites that are not behind the wall are providing part of their content through embedded Youtube videos. In order to see that content you need to agree with tracking. Those sites use Youtube just because it is often considered as standard.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  Youtube's destiny was always to be ad supported or a subscription. If you think there can be a free platform (truly free) I highly encourage you to look up the fate of youtubes biggest competitive threat of the last decade: Vid.me, an actually whole hearted VC funded attempt to dethrone youtube. And it worked great for a bit..
JKCalhoun 3y ago
It would be nice if Google charged what it cost to store/deliver the content. I mean they aren't paying for the content — that's on the backs of the content creators, most of which I suspect see no positive cash-flow for their time and effort. I'd also like to see 70% of the subscriber money go to the content creators (which appears to be the new standard royalty cut) and do away with the ads, ad revenue. Wanting both ad revenue and subscriber money is a bit like the bait-and-switch we saw from cable television when it debuted.
- mvdtnz 3y ago
  There are no ads for subscribers though.
- nickthegreek 3y ago
  There is no bait and switch. There are 2 options, ad-supported and ad-free.
Moldoteck 3y ago
question is, will I, as ublock user & premium payer have this problem?
- nickthegreek 3y ago
  I have not.

Simultaneously irritating and "well yeah." No one likes ads or monthly subscriptions, but serving video is expensive, so why not deprioritize the users who are giving you zero dollars and zero cents?

timeon 3y ago

Why they bought popular free platform when they are struggling to maintain it? Youtube is go-to platform for video publishing because it started as free platform. When they captured this segment of web, they have overloaded it with ads. I do not expect anyone serving me for free. But it is not bearable when everything and everyone expects you to use these walled gardens.

tg180 3y ago
>when they are struggling to maintain it? YouTube is not losing money, it's a significant contributor to Alphabet's overall revenue. They are not struggling to maintain it, they're trying to milk the cash cow...
- timeon 3y ago
  That is probably true. I was just reacting to: 'serving video is expensive'.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  > YouTube is not losing money, it's a significant contributor to Alphabet's overall revenue. There's no contradiction between those two ideas. Something that loses a lot of money is more likely to be a significant contributor to revenue, because you can't lose a lot of money without seeing a lot of use. But why would anyone care about revenue? Is it a significant contributor to profit? Last I heard, Alphabet doesn't even provide a breakdown of how much of its money comes from YouTube.
krsrhe 3y ago
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nickthegreek 3y ago
How is youtube a walled garden?
- timeon 3y ago
  I consider tracking [0] and excessive Ads as wall. Many sites that are not behind the wall are providing part of their content through embedded Youtube videos. In order to see that content you need to agree with tracking. Those sites use Youtube just because it is often considered as standard.
Workaccount2 3y ago
Youtube's destiny was always to be ad supported or a subscription. If you think there can be a free platform (truly free) I highly encourage you to look up the fate of youtubes biggest competitive threat of the last decade: Vid.me, an actually whole hearted VC funded attempt to dethrone youtube. And it worked great for a bit..

JKCalhoun 3y ago

It would be nice if Google charged what it cost to store/deliver the content. I mean they aren't paying for the content — that's on the backs of the content creators, most of which I suspect see no positive cash-flow for their time and effort. I'd also like to see 70% of the subscriber money go to the content creators (which appears to be the new standard royalty cut) and do away with the ads, ad revenue. Wanting both ad revenue and subscriber money is a bit like the bait-and-switch we saw from cable television when it debuted.

mvdtnz 3y ago
There are no ads for subscribers though.
nickthegreek 3y ago
There is no bait and switch. There are 2 options, ad-supported and ad-free.

Moldoteck 3y ago

question is, will I, as ublock user & premium payer have this problem?

nickthegreek 3y ago
I have not.