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> The risk of AI is that it will make humans uneconomic, in the same way horses became uneconomic and were by and large sent to the glue factories. I think an

> The risk of AI is that it will make humans uneconomic, in the same way horses became uneconomic and were by and large sent to the glue factories. I think an intermediate step in the process will be making some humans uneconomic. There's a saying in Yellowstone - the reason bear proof garbage cans are so hard is that there is substantial overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans.

ben_w 3y ago
> I think an intermediate step in the process will be making some humans uneconomic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)
- passion__desire 3y ago
  Also making humans lose their ability for advanced physical actions like driving a car manually in fast moving futuristic traffic. This aspect was shown in the I,Robot movie in which only Will Smith prefers to drive manually, rest of population deferred to self-driving cars.
  - freilanzer 3y ago
    That scenario is not a problem at all though. It's much safer for everyone involved and can be optimised a lot better.
    - passion__desire 3y ago
      I was pointing out the scenario where if humans were to start the uprising, they would be uneconomic and unphysical to do anything meaningful.
janalsncm 3y ago
Yes, some humans. But at what point does “some” humans become a problem? The US had only 30% unemployment during the Great Depression and that was only temporary.
- melagonster 3y ago
  10%,20%,30%,...it won't stop. I trust after a threshold, people can't survive in society. maybe prices of food just raise to make sure people can't live because other part of people notice that they don't need to let people live in world.
  - anon25783 3y ago
    That's assuming that society just sits back and dies helplessly while we surpass 30% unemployment. In the Great Depression, that's not what happened; rather, we got a dramatic surge in organized labor, the New Deal, and World War Two. We can expect a similarly dramatic restructuring of global society when economic conditions get that bad again. People's reaction to food prices exceeding what they can afford doesn't tend to be "darn, I guess I will just starve then".
    - melagonster 3y ago
      I hope so, but last time we still need human workers. Is this our best project that maybe people will do benevolent thing when enough people's life becoming terrible? hope everything can getting better.
      - anon25783 3y ago
        "Benevolent" may not be the word I'd use to describe the likely behavior of a population that is starving due to their livelihoods being automated away.

ben_w 3y ago

> I think an intermediate step in the process will be making some humans uneconomic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)

passion__desire 3y ago
Also making humans lose their ability for advanced physical actions like driving a car manually in fast moving futuristic traffic. This aspect was shown in the I,Robot movie in which only Will Smith prefers to drive manually, rest of population deferred to self-driving cars.
- freilanzer 3y ago
  That scenario is not a problem at all though. It's much safer for everyone involved and can be optimised a lot better.
  - passion__desire 3y ago
    I was pointing out the scenario where if humans were to start the uprising, they would be uneconomic and unphysical to do anything meaningful.

janalsncm 3y ago

Yes, some humans. But at what point does “some” humans become a problem? The US had only 30% unemployment during the Great Depression and that was only temporary.

melagonster 3y ago
10%,20%,30%,...it won't stop. I trust after a threshold, people can't survive in society. maybe prices of food just raise to make sure people can't live because other part of people notice that they don't need to let people live in world.
- anon25783 3y ago
  That's assuming that society just sits back and dies helplessly while we surpass 30% unemployment. In the Great Depression, that's not what happened; rather, we got a dramatic surge in organized labor, the New Deal, and World War Two. We can expect a similarly dramatic restructuring of global society when economic conditions get that bad again. People's reaction to food prices exceeding what they can afford doesn't tend to be "darn, I guess I will just starve then".
  - melagonster 3y ago
    I hope so, but last time we still need human workers. Is this our best project that maybe people will do benevolent thing when enough people's life becoming terrible? hope everything can getting better.
    - anon25783 3y ago
      "Benevolent" may not be the word I'd use to describe the likely behavior of a population that is starving due to their livelihoods being automated away.