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Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflic

by robg 3y ago

Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflict of interest AND now Poe is viable again as intended. For a minor player in AI he’s managed to maximize his interests and while serving on a non-profit board.

upwardbound 3y ago
This theory is endorsed by OpenAI's Head of Applied Research, Dr. Boris Power, who retweeted a Robert Scoble tweet saying this. See his twitter timeline here https://twitter.com/borismpower?lang=en https://twitter.com/borismpower?lang=en
- gwd 3y ago
  For those not logged in, Power said the following was "an interesting thread, maybe too speculative": https://nitter.net/scottastevenson/status/1726731022862008733#m https://nitter.net/scottastevenson/status/172673102286200873...
  - upwardbound 3y ago
    Correct, and Dr. Power also retweeted a tweet from @Scobleizer that says: Who held the gun that killed OpenAI? Hey @adamdangelo all evidence points at you. Wanna come on my show?
- robg 3y ago
  Being spun as deeply ideological seems about right - the 3 non-profit oriented board members seem like they were already open about their views in that direction, so just took one vote to flip - D’Angelo.
drexlspivey 3y ago
I see stuff like this spreading in social media and it’s always people speculating without any evidence. On Saturday it was a coup by Ilya, on Sunday it was a coup by effective altruists/decelerationists on the board, today is D’Angelo’s Poe getting eaten up tomorrow it will be something else. Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company losing value why would the other 3 board members be on board with that? You’re not doing anyone any good speculating stuff like this just adding more noise.
- RobertDeNiro 3y ago
  Not saying I agree with the theory, but if D’Angelo was any but manipulative he would obviously lie and convince them using other reasons. For instance he could claim that he’s worried about alignment, safety, etc.
  - upwardbound 3y ago
    any *bit manipulative
- siva7 3y ago
  Your argumentation against parent is very fluffy. > Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company losing value why would the other 3 board members be on board with that? The other 3 have their own motives which have been repeated over and over here. It came to light that there were strong tensions between Helen and Sam as he wanted her to be removed from the board. Ilya was hurt by Sam over the competing teams fiasco. Adam wanted to protect his competitor which is a clear interest conflict and could bring him in severe legal trouble.
  - drexlspivey 3y ago
    And you figured out 4 different motives for 4 different people based on what exactly?
    - singularity2001 3y ago
      The motives are well documented. Whether these motives were enough to pull the trigger, or other motives will appear remains to be seen.
  - deleted 3y ago
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- robg 3y ago
  You don’t think D’Angelo has a conflict of interest?
tucnak 3y ago
D’Angelo is certainly naive in his self-interest, and definitely not capable as to orchestrate this thing. Think of him like he's useful bastard, and now it's his turn to become the scape-goat bastard for everybody to hate. This is counter-spin for containment purposes. The real questions we should be asking is how come the NATSEC patriot-ladies on the board managed to exploit Sutskever in such blatant way, what that entailed, and what kind of psychosis it took to get there.
NewEntryHN 3y ago
It has not escaped close scrutiny. It's just that people don't go around accusing a specific person without evidence.
- robg 3y ago
  The timing of Dev Day and its impacts on Poe aren’t suspect to you? And you don’t think D’Angelo has a conflict of interest that impacts his board role at OpenAI?

by robg 3y ago

upwardbound 3y ago

This theory is endorsed by OpenAI's Head of Applied Research, Dr. Boris Power, who retweeted a Robert Scoble tweet saying this. See his twitter timeline here https://twitter.com/borismpower?lang=en https://twitter.com/borismpower?lang=en

gwd 3y ago
For those not logged in, Power said the following was "an interesting thread, maybe too speculative": https://nitter.net/scottastevenson/status/1726731022862008733#m https://nitter.net/scottastevenson/status/172673102286200873...
- upwardbound 3y ago
  Correct, and Dr. Power also retweeted a tweet from @Scobleizer that says: Who held the gun that killed OpenAI? Hey @adamdangelo all evidence points at you. Wanna come on my show?
robg 3y ago
Being spun as deeply ideological seems about right - the 3 non-profit oriented board members seem like they were already open about their views in that direction, so just took one vote to flip - D’Angelo.

drexlspivey 3y ago

I see stuff like this spreading in social media and it’s always people speculating without any evidence. On Saturday it was a coup by Ilya, on Sunday it was a coup by effective altruists/decelerationists on the board, today is D’Angelo’s Poe getting eaten up tomorrow it will be something else. Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company losing value why would the other 3 board members be on board with that? You’re not doing anyone any good speculating stuff like this just adding more noise.

RobertDeNiro 3y ago
Not saying I agree with the theory, but if D’Angelo was any but manipulative he would obviously lie and convince them using other reasons. For instance he could claim that he’s worried about alignment, safety, etc.
- upwardbound 3y ago
  any *bit manipulative
siva7 3y ago
Your argumentation against parent is very fluffy. > Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company losing value why would the other 3 board members be on board with that? The other 3 have their own motives which have been repeated over and over here. It came to light that there were strong tensions between Helen and Sam as he wanted her to be removed from the board. Ilya was hurt by Sam over the competing teams fiasco. Adam wanted to protect his competitor which is a clear interest conflict and could bring him in severe legal trouble.
- drexlspivey 3y ago
  And you figured out 4 different motives for 4 different people based on what exactly?
  - singularity2001 3y ago
    The motives are well documented. Whether these motives were enough to pull the trigger, or other motives will appear remains to be seen.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
robg 3y ago
You don’t think D’Angelo has a conflict of interest?

tucnak 3y ago

D’Angelo is certainly naive in his self-interest, and definitely not capable as to orchestrate this thing. Think of him like he's useful bastard, and now it's his turn to become the scape-goat bastard for everybody to hate. This is counter-spin for containment purposes. The real questions we should be asking is how come the NATSEC patriot-ladies on the board managed to exploit Sutskever in such blatant way, what that entailed, and what kind of psychosis it took to get there.

NewEntryHN 3y ago

It has not escaped close scrutiny. It's just that people don't go around accusing a specific person without evidence.

robg 3y ago
The timing of Dev Day and its impacts on Poe aren’t suspect to you? And you don’t think D’Angelo has a conflict of interest that impacts his board role at OpenAI?