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I find it absolutely fascinating that Emmett accepted this position. He can game all scenarios and there is no way that he can come out ahead on any of them. On

I find it absolutely fascinating that Emmett accepted this position. He can game all scenarios and there is no way that he can come out ahead on any of them. One would expect an experienced Silicon Valley CEO to make this calculus and realize it's a lost cause. The fact he accepted to me shows he's not a particularly good leader.

tw1984 3y ago
He made it pretty clear that he consider it as a once in a life time chance. I think he is correct, being the CEO twitch is a position known by no one in many places, e.g. how many developers/users in China even heard of Twitch? Being the CEO of OpenAI is a completely different story, it is a whole new level he can leverage in the years to come.
- khazhoux 3y ago
  > he consider it as a once in a life time chance. Like taking a sword to the gut.
- ps256 3y ago
  It seems kind of naive to think that he'll be CEO for long, or if it is for long, that there will be much company left to be a CEO of.
  - tw1984 3y ago
    why he needs to be CEO for long? If everything goes well, he can claim that he is the man behind all these to reunite the OpenAI team. If something goes wrong, well, no one is going to blame him, the board screwed the entire business. He is more like a emergency room doctor who failed to save a poor dude who just intentionally shot himself in the head with a shotgun.
    - ps256 3y ago
      > If everything goes well, he can claim that he is the man behind all these to reunite the OpenAI team. It's now one day later and Altman is back as CEO - what can Emmett Shear claim exactly?
      - tw1984 3y ago
        > what can Emmett Shear claim exactly? - helped to stabilized the situation - the first to propose the idea of independent investigation into the matter - sided with impacted employees all the way through such difficult moments - supported a smooth transition period depending on how he reacted when 90% employees signed that letter asking for altman's return, don't be too surprised if he claims to be guy how helped to push for that as well.
bmitc 3y ago
That seems kind of silly to say. He's not a good leader because he's taking on a challenge?
- upupupandaway 3y ago
  A challenge he can't win, brought in by people 90% of the company hates, and with the four most influential people in the company either gone or having turned on the board does not sound like a "challenge" but more like a "guaranteed L".

tw1984 3y ago

He made it pretty clear that he consider it as a once in a life time chance. I think he is correct, being the CEO twitch is a position known by no one in many places, e.g. how many developers/users in China even heard of Twitch? Being the CEO of OpenAI is a completely different story, it is a whole new level he can leverage in the years to come.

khazhoux 3y ago
> he consider it as a once in a life time chance. Like taking a sword to the gut.
ps256 3y ago
It seems kind of naive to think that he'll be CEO for long, or if it is for long, that there will be much company left to be a CEO of.
- tw1984 3y ago
  why he needs to be CEO for long? If everything goes well, he can claim that he is the man behind all these to reunite the OpenAI team. If something goes wrong, well, no one is going to blame him, the board screwed the entire business. He is more like a emergency room doctor who failed to save a poor dude who just intentionally shot himself in the head with a shotgun.
  - ps256 3y ago
    > If everything goes well, he can claim that he is the man behind all these to reunite the OpenAI team. It's now one day later and Altman is back as CEO - what can Emmett Shear claim exactly?
    - tw1984 3y ago
      > what can Emmett Shear claim exactly? - helped to stabilized the situation - the first to propose the idea of independent investigation into the matter - sided with impacted employees all the way through such difficult moments - supported a smooth transition period depending on how he reacted when 90% employees signed that letter asking for altman's return, don't be too surprised if he claims to be guy how helped to push for that as well.

bmitc 3y ago

That seems kind of silly to say. He's not a good leader because he's taking on a challenge?

upupupandaway 3y ago
A challenge he can't win, brought in by people 90% of the company hates, and with the four most influential people in the company either gone or having turned on the board does not sound like a "challenge" but more like a "guaranteed L".