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i do believe what they said about Altman "was not consistently candid in his communications with the board.", based on my understanding, altman did proved his d

by aiman3 3y ago

i do believe what they said about Altman "was not consistently candid in his communications with the board.", based on my understanding, altman did proved his dishonest behavior from he did to openai, turned non-profit into for-profit and open source model to closed-source one. and even worst, people seems totally accepted this type of personality, the danger is not the AI itself, is the AI will be built by AltmanS!

vorticalbox 3y ago
OpenAI, Inc. Is non profit but it's subsidiary OpenAI Global, LLC. Is for profit.
- aiman3 3y ago
  what is end goal of having a for-profit subsidiary, make opanai more non-profit and make the model more open-source ?
  - MacsHeadroom 3y ago
    Ideally it is to have greater access to resources by taking investment money and paying for top talent with profit sharing agreements, in order to ultimately further the goals of the nonprofit.
    - aiman3 3y ago
      the outcome of this for-profit subsidiary is already showing in real-time, they just want to take everything from openai into for-profit for their own benefit, that is a fraud by definition, which means taking something is not theirs. one good example is Flash mob in LA, yours belongs to me, same culture, same behavior. to your "Ideally world", its very simple, Microsoft could simply just donate $10b to openai, they can share the open-sourced model.
qwytw 3y ago
> dishonest behavior from he did to openai, turned non-profit into for-profit and Yes and it's perfectly obvious that he did this without the consent of the board and behind their backs. A bit absurd don't you think? How would that even work? > will be built by AltmanS Why are you so certain most other people on the OpenAI board or their upper management are that different? Or hold very different views?
- aiman3 3y ago
  >>Yes and it's perfectly obvious that he did this without the consent of the board and behind their backs. A bit absurd don't you think? How would that even work? i don't know, i don't have answer for that. but meta open-sourced llama-2, did what openai supposes to do. >>Why are you so certain most other people on the OpenAI board or their upper management are that different? Or hold very different views? at least they have the guts to fire him and let the world know about Altman "was not consistently candid in his communications with the board.".

by aiman3 3y ago

vorticalbox 3y ago

OpenAI, Inc. Is non profit but it's subsidiary OpenAI Global, LLC. Is for profit.

aiman3 3y ago
what is end goal of having a for-profit subsidiary, make opanai more non-profit and make the model more open-source ?
- MacsHeadroom 3y ago
  Ideally it is to have greater access to resources by taking investment money and paying for top talent with profit sharing agreements, in order to ultimately further the goals of the nonprofit.
  - aiman3 3y ago
    the outcome of this for-profit subsidiary is already showing in real-time, they just want to take everything from openai into for-profit for their own benefit, that is a fraud by definition, which means taking something is not theirs. one good example is Flash mob in LA, yours belongs to me, same culture, same behavior. to your "Ideally world", its very simple, Microsoft could simply just donate $10b to openai, they can share the open-sourced model.

qwytw 3y ago

> dishonest behavior from he did to openai, turned non-profit into for-profit and Yes and it's perfectly obvious that he did this without the consent of the board and behind their backs. A bit absurd don't you think? How would that even work? > will be built by AltmanS Why are you so certain most other people on the OpenAI board or their upper management are that different? Or hold very different views?

aiman3 3y ago
>>Yes and it's perfectly obvious that he did this without the consent of the board and behind their backs. A bit absurd don't you think? How would that even work? i don't know, i don't have answer for that. but meta open-sourced llama-2, did what openai supposes to do. >>Why are you so certain most other people on the OpenAI board or their upper management are that different? Or hold very different views? at least they have the guts to fire him and let the world know about Altman "was not consistently candid in his communications with the board.".