4 ms·I never said bad, just cheap ;) I didn't know about natural oak, super coolby thsksbd 3y agoI never said bad, just cheap ;) I didn't know about natural oak, super cooljghn 3y agoAlso should qualify cheap. A lot of people likely picture a much lower price point than where one might find stainless, concrete, etcbrookst 3y agoFair fair, cheap != bad, especially in wine.