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I think the situation is changing every five minutes. Sam going to Microsoft is surely an offer that exists, but it may or may not actually happen.

by TillE 3y ago

robbomacrae 3y ago
Honestly I think there was an offer and Sam verbally accepted.. maybe even signed. That doesn't mean it will happen and if all this is the case.. then it should be fine by SEC because there wasn't technically a lie.
- blitzar 3y ago
  Unless you state publicly that there was no reason to believe their statement was true and they said it only for the purpose of juicing the stock price.
amluto 3y ago
Is Sam going to MS actually useful for MS in the long run? MS has a CEO. What they want is mostly-exclusive access to the best LLM. They had that last week. If Sam returns to OpenAI, they will continue to have it. If Sam brings most of the OpenAI team to MS, there will be an awkward recreation of IP and MS will likely get it again [0]. But other than being the one to bring the team along, I’m not sure what Sam, personally, would bring. (Sam at OpenAI is a different story obviously.) [0] OpenAI has some maybe-dubious IP in the form of a massive dataset. MS may prefer not to possess such a thing. And I don’t know whether MS is permitted under its contract to create derivative works of whatever it licensed from OpenAI.
- chatmasta 3y ago
  > MS has a CEO. Sam Altman replacing Satya Nadella as CEO of Microsoft would certainly be a twist!
- threeseed 3y ago
  Microsoft has 340x the number of employees as OpenAI. Sam Altman was never a consideration as CEO of the whole company. But instead CEO or VP of a seperate entity similar to how Github operates for which Sam would be more than suitable. And once again Sam just built a $100b business. That requires a bit more skill than people give him credit for.
  - amluto 3y ago
    Sure, but would Sam want to do that? Building a $100bn business is one thing. Running a division of a big company is rather different.
- moberley 3y ago
  Microsoft already has several employees whose position is titled as "CEO" -- the heads of GitHub and LinkedIn at least -- other than head of the whole firm.

I think the situation is changing every five minutes. Sam going to Microsoft is surely an offer that exists, but it may or may not actually happen.

by TillE 3y ago

I think the situation is changing every five minutes. Sam going to Microsoft is surely an offer that exists, but it may or may not actually happen.

robbomacrae 3y ago

Honestly I think there was an offer and Sam verbally accepted.. maybe even signed. That doesn't mean it will happen and if all this is the case.. then it should be fine by SEC because there wasn't technically a lie.

blitzar 3y ago
Unless you state publicly that there was no reason to believe their statement was true and they said it only for the purpose of juicing the stock price.

amluto 3y ago

Is Sam going to MS actually useful for MS in the long run? MS has a CEO. What they want is mostly-exclusive access to the best LLM. They had that last week. If Sam returns to OpenAI, they will continue to have it. If Sam brings most of the OpenAI team to MS, there will be an awkward recreation of IP and MS will likely get it again [0]. But other than being the one to bring the team along, I’m not sure what Sam, personally, would bring. (Sam at OpenAI is a different story obviously.) [0] OpenAI has some maybe-dubious IP in the form of a massive dataset. MS may prefer not to possess such a thing. And I don’t know whether MS is permitted under its contract to create derivative works of whatever it licensed from OpenAI.

chatmasta 3y ago
> MS has a CEO. Sam Altman replacing Satya Nadella as CEO of Microsoft would certainly be a twist!
threeseed 3y ago
Microsoft has 340x the number of employees as OpenAI. Sam Altman was never a consideration as CEO of the whole company. But instead CEO or VP of a seperate entity similar to how Github operates for which Sam would be more than suitable. And once again Sam just built a $100b business. That requires a bit more skill than people give him credit for.
- amluto 3y ago
  Sure, but would Sam want to do that? Building a $100bn business is one thing. Running a division of a big company is rather different.
moberley 3y ago
Microsoft already has several employees whose position is titled as "CEO" -- the heads of GitHub and LinkedIn at least -- other than head of the whole firm.