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Is attribute illegal or harassing or just something you don't like? Because those are very important distinctions for formal complaints.

tester756 3y ago
I bet he meant ppl coming from specific country :) I've heard about it already
- ed-209 3y ago
  What company?
  - pb7 3y ago
    Apple.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  I've seen it and heard of it numerous times with India and China. But not Korea, Japan, Pakistan, or other countries. I find this inexplicable.
  - filoleg 3y ago
    Here is a simple explanation: how many people there are from India or China immigrating to the US on H1B vs from those other countries you listed? I would be more surprised if it was anything but “India and China” in your observations, just due to raw volumes.
    - mcpackieh 3y ago
      I listed those three countries for two reasons: First, because they are adjacent to the first two I listed. Secondly, because workers from those countries are numerous enough in the companies I have worked that they could plausibly form ethnic enclave teams if they were inclined to. In contrast, I have only worked with a small handful of Australians.. they are too few and far between to plausibly form all-Australian teams. I have worked with far more Japanese, Korean and Pakistani coworkers; these nationalities have been heavily represented in the workplaces I have experience with yet I've never seen nor heard of a team where they were conspicuously over-represented. Another thing: In my entire career I've never been on a team of only white people (of any nationality), nor to the best of my recollection have I ever seen a team larger than 4 or 5 that only had white people. Guestimating some rough numbers... if a company is 50% white and 15% Chinese and there are no ethnic biases present, what are the odds I would see numerous large all-Chinese teams but never a large all-white team? This sort of circumstance arising without bias seems deeply implausible.

tester756 3y ago

I bet he meant ppl coming from specific country :) I've heard about it already

ed-209 3y ago
What company?
- pb7 3y ago
  Apple.
mcpackieh 3y ago
I've seen it and heard of it numerous times with India and China. But not Korea, Japan, Pakistan, or other countries. I find this inexplicable.
- filoleg 3y ago
  Here is a simple explanation: how many people there are from India or China immigrating to the US on H1B vs from those other countries you listed? I would be more surprised if it was anything but “India and China” in your observations, just due to raw volumes.
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    I listed those three countries for two reasons: First, because they are adjacent to the first two I listed. Secondly, because workers from those countries are numerous enough in the companies I have worked that they could plausibly form ethnic enclave teams if they were inclined to. In contrast, I have only worked with a small handful of Australians.. they are too few and far between to plausibly form all-Australian teams. I have worked with far more Japanese, Korean and Pakistani coworkers; these nationalities have been heavily represented in the workplaces I have experience with yet I've never seen nor heard of a team where they were conspicuously over-represented. Another thing: In my entire career I've never been on a team of only white people (of any nationality), nor to the best of my recollection have I ever seen a team larger than 4 or 5 that only had white people. Guestimating some rough numbers... if a company is 50% white and 15% Chinese and there are no ethnic biases present, what are the odds I would see numerous large all-Chinese teams but never a large all-white team? This sort of circumstance arising without bias seems deeply implausible.