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Boosting this deeply nested interesting comment from @alephnerd to the top level: > As I posted elsewhere, I think this is a conflict between Dustin Moskovitz
by tedmiston 3y ago
Boosting this deeply nested interesting comment from @alephnerd to the top level:
> As I posted elsewhere, I think this is a conflict between Dustin Moskovitz and Sam Altman. Ilya may have been brought into this without his knowledge (which might explain why he retracted his position).
Dustin Moskovitz was an early employee at FB, and the founder of Asana. He also created (along with plenty of MSFT bigwigs) a non-profit called Open Philanthropy, which was a early proponent of a form of Effective Altruism and also gave OpenAI their $30M grant. He is also one of the early investors in Anthropic.
> Most of the OpenAI board members are related to Dustin Moskovitz this way.
> - Adam D'Angelo is on the board of Asana and is a good friend to both Moskovitz and Altman
> - Helen Toner worked for Dustin Moskovitz at Open Philanthropy and managed their grant to OpenAI. She was also a member of the Centre for the Governance of AI when McCauley was a board member there. Shortly after Toner left, the Centre for the Governance of AI got a $1M grant from Open Philanthropy and McCauley joined the board of OpenAI
> - Tasha McCauley represents the Centre for the Governance of AI, which Dustin Moskovitz gave a $1M grant to via Open Philanthropy and McCauley ended up joining the board of OpenAI
> Over the past few months, Dustin Moskovitz has also been increasingly warning about AI Safety.
> In essense, it looks like a split between Sam Altman and Dustin Moskovitz
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38353330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38353330
- supriyo-biswas 3y agoYou can ask dang to pin comments, though I am not sure if it only works for top level comments.
- alephnerd 3y agoPlease don't. I'm too close to comfort to this shitshow. I don't want to make yet another alt account.
- dang 3y agoIf there's a problem, let me know at hn@ycombinator.com and we'll take care of it.
- tedmiston 3y agoSomeone mentioned that in the comments on the linked post, but I'm also not sure if pinning non-top level comments is possible.
- dang 3y ago> Boosting this deeply nested interesting comment from @alephnerd to the top level Please don't do this - for many reasons, including that it makes merging the comments a pain. If you or anyone notices a comment that deserves to be at the top level (and doesn't lose context if moved), let us know at hn@ycombinator.com and we'll move it.
- tedmiston 3y agoThanks for the quick fix, Dan! So do you have the ability to pin deeply nested comments or do you have to remove it from the existing thread for this to work? Someone else proposed this first but didn't think pinning worked on nested comments. Edit: The original author asked not to be pinned in a subcomment, so I don't know now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
- dang 3y agoI didn't pin it; I just detached it, which allowed it to get ranked at the toplevel. After that it's just the algorithm doing its thing.
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- WitCanStain 3y agoAnd these are the people who have great say over AI safety. Jesus. Whoever thought that egomaniacs and profiteers would guide us to a bright AI future?