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It's a white supremacist conspiracy theory called the great replacement. He's implying that the Jews are responsible for trying to bring in immigrants in order

It's a white supremacist conspiracy theory called the great replacement. He's implying that the Jews are responsible for trying to bring in immigrants in order to dilute and destroy "the white race". He's also using somewhat oblique language in order to appeal to the right people who understand this crap, like Elon apparently.

s1artibartfast 3y ago
Is immigration the conspiracy? Is the objectionable part entirely in the unwritten subtext you are adding?
- throwaway5752 3y ago
  Anyone can search for "Great Replacement Theory", which you'll frequently hear radicalized people refer to "White Genocide". Whether or not you believe in this, it was cited directly in the manifestos of * the Christchurch NZ shooter (https://www.start.umd.edu/news/new-zealand-terrorists-manifesto-look-some-key-narratives-beliefs-and-tropes https://www.start.umd.edu/news/new-zealand-terrorists-manife..., 51 dead, 40 injured) * the El Paso shooter (https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/the-manifesto-of-the-el-paso-terrorist/ https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/the-manifesto-of-the-..., 23 dead, 22 injured) * the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter (https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/10/28/analyzing-terrorists-social-media-manifesto-pittsburgh-synagogue-shooters-posts-gab https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/10/28/analyzing-ter..., 11 dead, 6 injured) * the Buffalo shooter (https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/buffaloshooting-onlineplatformsreport.pdf https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/buffaloshooting-online..., 10 dead, 3 injured) It is why the neonazis that marched in the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville VA 6 years ago chanted "You will not replace us. Jews will not replace us" and "Blood and Soil" (Blut und Boden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil) This is widely known and barely coded language. It is prominently supported and spread by people that X's owner had replied to retweeted previously, and repeatedly. This widely known, widely understood context informs the real meaning of this tweet.
  - s1artibartfast 3y ago
    When you say it is widely known, do you mean by a majority of the population, 10%, 1%, or 0.1%. Most of this seems very niche to me. Do you think there is any legitimate way to criticize racial hypocrisy of zionist organizations supporting a racial ethnostate? For what it is worth, I don't believe in any replacement conspiracy, especially not one carried out by a specific ethnic group. I have however seen groups like the ADL quickly characterize any opposition as racist. For example, they consider those that participate in BDS and refuse to purchase Israeli goods in their personal lives racist and support anti-BDS laws.
    - ssklash 3y ago
      It's obvious what you're doing. You probably think you're being subtle, but you're not. The discussion is not about what % of people know about this (well-documented if you simply do a google search) conspiracy theory, nor is it about criticizing Israel. The point is about Elon Musk agreeing with a known white supremacist conspiracy theory.
      - s1artibartfast 3y ago
        If you see conspiracy theories everywhere I guess it makes sense that you'd accuse me of one too. I wasn't being evasive and meant everything I said. If a racist says the sky is blue and you agree, does that make you racist? If someone says calling the sky blue is a dog whistle, does that mean you have to call it red? Are we really operating under the assumption that anyone who criticizes a hypocritical apartheid ethno state is a racist?
        ssklash 3y ago
        There you go again, shoehorning in your carefully constructed talking points, without actually addressing any of the topics of the conversation.
        s1artibartfast 3y ago

s1artibartfast 3y ago

Is immigration the conspiracy? Is the objectionable part entirely in the unwritten subtext you are adding?

throwaway5752 3y ago
Anyone can search for "Great Replacement Theory", which you'll frequently hear radicalized people refer to "White Genocide". Whether or not you believe in this, it was cited directly in the manifestos of * the Christchurch NZ shooter (https://www.start.umd.edu/news/new-zealand-terrorists-manifesto-look-some-key-narratives-beliefs-and-tropes https://www.start.umd.edu/news/new-zealand-terrorists-manife..., 51 dead, 40 injured) * the El Paso shooter (https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/the-manifesto-of-the-el-paso-terrorist/ https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/the-manifesto-of-the-..., 23 dead, 22 injured) * the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter (https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/10/28/analyzing-terrorists-social-media-manifesto-pittsburgh-synagogue-shooters-posts-gab https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/10/28/analyzing-ter..., 11 dead, 6 injured) * the Buffalo shooter (https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/buffaloshooting-onlineplatformsreport.pdf https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/buffaloshooting-online..., 10 dead, 3 injured) It is why the neonazis that marched in the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville VA 6 years ago chanted "You will not replace us. Jews will not replace us" and "Blood and Soil" (Blut und Boden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil) This is widely known and barely coded language. It is prominently supported and spread by people that X's owner had replied to retweeted previously, and repeatedly. This widely known, widely understood context informs the real meaning of this tweet.
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  When you say it is widely known, do you mean by a majority of the population, 10%, 1%, or 0.1%. Most of this seems very niche to me. Do you think there is any legitimate way to criticize racial hypocrisy of zionist organizations supporting a racial ethnostate? For what it is worth, I don't believe in any replacement conspiracy, especially not one carried out by a specific ethnic group. I have however seen groups like the ADL quickly characterize any opposition as racist. For example, they consider those that participate in BDS and refuse to purchase Israeli goods in their personal lives racist and support anti-BDS laws.
  - ssklash 3y ago
    It's obvious what you're doing. You probably think you're being subtle, but you're not. The discussion is not about what % of people know about this (well-documented if you simply do a google search) conspiracy theory, nor is it about criticizing Israel. The point is about Elon Musk agreeing with a known white supremacist conspiracy theory.
    - s1artibartfast 3y ago
      If you see conspiracy theories everywhere I guess it makes sense that you'd accuse me of one too. I wasn't being evasive and meant everything I said. If a racist says the sky is blue and you agree, does that make you racist? If someone says calling the sky blue is a dog whistle, does that mean you have to call it red? Are we really operating under the assumption that anyone who criticizes a hypocritical apartheid ethno state is a racist?
      - ssklash 3y ago
        There you go again, shoehorning in your carefully constructed talking points, without actually addressing any of the topics of the conversation.
        s1artibartfast 3y ago