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Do the people who design these dark patterns get paid more than honest people? What are the LinkedIn keywords used to identify these roles? Is it along the li

Do the people who design these dark patterns get paid more than honest people? What are the LinkedIn keywords used to identify these roles? Is it along the lines of “growth hacking?” There has to be a name for this job and I am just too dumb and naive to know it at the moment. Help, please.

godelski 3y ago
I'm just going to quote hanzmanner (in the sibling's children's comment) > For a tech forum it is surprising how many commenters in this thread don’t understand what are “dark patterns” I think people just don't get it. Maybe because people just aren't thinking about how things couple and the interactions. Maybe because no one wants to be the bad guy so don't think too hard about it? There could be a lot of reasons. Could even be that people are more worried about job security so just deal with it.
- consumer451 3y ago
  Fair enough. So how would someone brag about accomplishing this in their work history? I ask this as a simple man who is looking for a job, and who is contemplating words that go on resumes. Simplest: “increased division’s revenue in a complex and novel way?” Or, even simpler “implemented dynamic pricing?“
  - godelski 3y ago
    > So how would someone brag about accomplishing this in their work history? - Performed user studies that led to x% growth in product revenue I don't think there would be anything that would specifically flag a resume entry as the employee being the one to implement dark patterns, but I'm just guessing here. Because things like dynamic pricing or user studies aren't inherently wrong. Dark patterns are wrong because they're manipulations. The clearest example being raising prices and then discounting them back to the same price. Amazon does this as well as Walmart.
acomjean 3y ago
I interviewed at a travel company. One thing someone said they didn't like about working there was that they're customers are really the airline and hotel chains that pay them, and anything that closes the deal at a higher price is what they'd do. UX "improvements" tested with A/B testing for sales optimization.
listenallyall 3y ago
A/B testing, sales funnel, conversion rates
mjcl 3y ago
"Revenue Management"
- listenallyall 3y ago
  This isn't dark pattern stuff, revenue (or yield) management is forecasting variable future demand for an expiring asset (airline seat, hotel room) and trying to optimally set pricing in order to match your supply along various points on the demand curve. Nobody's trying to "trick" anyone, just setting different prices and incenting early and flexible bookings while raising prices at high-demand times.

godelski 3y ago

I'm just going to quote hanzmanner (in the sibling's children's comment) > For a tech forum it is surprising how many commenters in this thread don’t understand what are “dark patterns” I think people just don't get it. Maybe because people just aren't thinking about how things couple and the interactions. Maybe because no one wants to be the bad guy so don't think too hard about it? There could be a lot of reasons. Could even be that people are more worried about job security so just deal with it.

consumer451 3y ago
Fair enough. So how would someone brag about accomplishing this in their work history? I ask this as a simple man who is looking for a job, and who is contemplating words that go on resumes. Simplest: “increased division’s revenue in a complex and novel way?” Or, even simpler “implemented dynamic pricing?“
- godelski 3y ago
  > So how would someone brag about accomplishing this in their work history? - Performed user studies that led to x% growth in product revenue I don't think there would be anything that would specifically flag a resume entry as the employee being the one to implement dark patterns, but I'm just guessing here. Because things like dynamic pricing or user studies aren't inherently wrong. Dark patterns are wrong because they're manipulations. The clearest example being raising prices and then discounting them back to the same price. Amazon does this as well as Walmart.

acomjean 3y ago

I interviewed at a travel company. One thing someone said they didn't like about working there was that they're customers are really the airline and hotel chains that pay them, and anything that closes the deal at a higher price is what they'd do. UX "improvements" tested with A/B testing for sales optimization.

listenallyall 3y ago

A/B testing, sales funnel, conversion rates

mjcl 3y ago

"Revenue Management"

listenallyall 3y ago
This isn't dark pattern stuff, revenue (or yield) management is forecasting variable future demand for an expiring asset (airline seat, hotel room) and trying to optimally set pricing in order to match your supply along various points on the demand curve. Nobody's trying to "trick" anyone, just setting different prices and incenting early and flexible bookings while raising prices at high-demand times.