> His take is that if you give peiple money, they won't work, which will be bad. Even if I were to concede his first point (which I'm about 50% willing to do -

> His take is that if you give peiple money, they won't work, which will be bad. Even if I were to concede his first point (which I'm about 50% willing to do - I accept that there are actually "lazy" people in the world who will lack any intrinsic motivation to do stuff), that doesn't mean that his implication - it will be bad - follows. When considering social policy, it is almost always going to have some good effects and some bad effects. So what we need to ask is not "is it good or bad that some people will not work if we give people money?" but rather "does the good from giving out the money outweigh the bad?" I think that the answer is unequivocally yes. Your dad might disagree, but he'd have to explain why the bad is bigger/worse than the good.