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> Business people who travel a lot I am one of those business people. And as I said, WiFi is fast reaching the point where it is as ubiquitous as running wate

> Business people who travel a lot I am one of those business people. And as I said, WiFi is fast reaching the point where it is as ubiquitous as running water. And as for "shabby public WiFi", if you are referring to security then that is what VPNs were invented for (and 4G/5G can be monitored too). Also quality wise public WiFi is not as "shabby" as it used to be. As I also made clear, 4G/5G is not a magical panacea, it is subject to variable speeds, contention and you being kicked-off by the emergency services. I'm not saying I never use hotspot. I'm saying I find myself using it far less then I ever used to. Indeed on my last business trip I didn't have a need to use it at all because the WiFi everywhere was so good.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
You're talking from a pretty biased pov of a bubble. Public wifi is definetly not ubiquous everywhere in every country, and even when it is you need to have the right credentials or it has annoying dark patterns requiring you to click through various steps before you can get online (if it works reliably in the first place), and there's a niche of people for whom such friction or issues are unacceptable from a business standpoint and their company is more than happy to pay a second SIM to ensure their laptop is always connected the moment the lid is opened to save time and friction. I get it it's not for you, but it's definetly for other people who values it. For example on the train network in my country, there's free wifi but it's so overloaded that using LTE tethering is much faster and reliable, and having that built in the laptop is even better for work, and that's why many business people get this feature on laptops. Imagine you are late or miss your important online call/meeting/presentation because you were faffing about with flaky public wifi instead of having built-in LTE connectivity. YES, hot-spot from your phone is a thing, but that's an extra annoying friction: Do I have enough battery on my phone to use it for the next hours? Did my hotpsot turn off automatically before and I need to restart it?
- traceroute66 3y ago
  > You're talking from a pretty biased pov of a bubble. You are in danger of crossing the line into personal insult territory there. You don't know me. You don't know my travel patterns. You don't even know what my line of work is. So I suggest you don't accuse me of working in a biased bubble. No further comment.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >You are in danger of crossing the line into personal insult territory there. Oh no, anyway... > So I suggest you don't accuse me of working in a biased bubble. I wasn't accusing you of anything. Maybe don't act like such a sensitive princess making a big deal out of nothing, and look at the facts mate.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

You're talking from a pretty biased pov of a bubble. Public wifi is definetly not ubiquous everywhere in every country, and even when it is you need to have the right credentials or it has annoying dark patterns requiring you to click through various steps before you can get online (if it works reliably in the first place), and there's a niche of people for whom such friction or issues are unacceptable from a business standpoint and their company is more than happy to pay a second SIM to ensure their laptop is always connected the moment the lid is opened to save time and friction. I get it it's not for you, but it's definetly for other people who values it. For example on the train network in my country, there's free wifi but it's so overloaded that using LTE tethering is much faster and reliable, and having that built in the laptop is even better for work, and that's why many business people get this feature on laptops. Imagine you are late or miss your important online call/meeting/presentation because you were faffing about with flaky public wifi instead of having built-in LTE connectivity. YES, hot-spot from your phone is a thing, but that's an extra annoying friction: Do I have enough battery on my phone to use it for the next hours? Did my hotpsot turn off automatically before and I need to restart it?

traceroute66 3y ago
> You're talking from a pretty biased pov of a bubble. You are in danger of crossing the line into personal insult territory there. You don't know me. You don't know my travel patterns. You don't even know what my line of work is. So I suggest you don't accuse me of working in a biased bubble. No further comment.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >You are in danger of crossing the line into personal insult territory there. Oh no, anyway... > So I suggest you don't accuse me of working in a biased bubble. I wasn't accusing you of anything. Maybe don't act like such a sensitive princess making a big deal out of nothing, and look at the facts mate.