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Obama passed a law that forced airlines to show the final price (fees + taxes) in the list price, so it's been like that for many years now. Before that it was
by tempsy 3y ago
Obama passed a law that forced airlines to show the final price (fees + taxes) in the list price, so it's been like that for many years now.
Before that it was much more like hotels where you're not shown the final price until the last step.
- judge2020 3y agoHow do they estimate taxes? Based on IP until you change your address?
- tempsy 3y agoTaxes are fully determined by departing and arriving airports. They don't need your IP.
- godelski 3y agoGreat. Now is the consumer allowed to compare prices in a meaningful way? Let's say I visit the site, close my browser, clear my cache and cookies, and then navigate to the site again. Should the price change?
- tempsy 3y agoNot sure what you're implying. Why would the price change in that situation.
- thedaly 3y agoSites used to book travel, ie airfare, hotels, etc, are notorious for changing price based on your perceived interest. I've noticed this myself when I look at a hotel listing multiple times, the price tends to creep up.
- tempsy 3y agoHotels maybe, but airfare is not going to change because you're in incognito or clear a browser. I rarely see any price differences between an Expedia and booking direct. If an airline was messing with prices based on something with your computer you would be see frequent large differences in prices between direct bookings and third party bookings, which I've never seen before.
- godelski 3y ago> Why would the price change in that situation. That's a great question! The reason many of us are upset. Because it shouldn't, but it does. Not always, but it does. Now this is black box probing so may be another factor, but the prices do swing quickly.
- pxx 3y agoStop spreading these lies. This cannot be done on any major airline (one large enough to be on a GDS). Airline pricing may be complicated but the way fares are constructed is public. You may be witnessing: * An ota changing their markups (which immediately asks the question "why are you paying the markup") * Differing currency conversions and fares if you're changing the country you're issuing from (but this will reset itself once you actually try to pay) * Fare class availability (somebody might have just bought the last ticket at that price) If what you are claiming is true, there'd be far more evidence for it, and ITA Matrix (and hell, OTAs) wouldn't exist as a product. Given how well this is documented, it almost seems like you're disingenuously trying to sell VPN products (especially with your name-drop of a specific product)
- godelski 3y agoI'm not aware of these things being well documented but I'd appreciate a link. And I'm just trying to say what I've observed. I'm explicitly saying that this is black box probing. I'm not sure these are the causal variables making the changes but they seem to correlate. I've said there are other effects than VPN too, like clearing cache and changing browsers. It is definitely a weird feeling to open a page in multiple browsers and see different prices. You're right, I do not know what's going on but I'm not lying nor am I alone in seeing these things.
- piperswe 3y agoWendover Productions has a great overview of airfare pricing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72hlr-E7KA0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72hlr-E7KA0 My understanding is that on most airlines, for a given route and fare class, you should expect a consistent price. Fare class is determined by stock available and a few extra inputs like trip length.