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You could get 15GB for $20 on Mint, but I already don’t use up that data on my phone so

by wlesieutre 3y ago

paxys 3y ago
15GB would last half a day on a non-mobile OS.
- wlesieutre 3y ago
  There’s a low data mode which is supposed to prevent it from downloading unnecessary stuff until you’re on an unmetered connection, but I have no clue how well supported it is, especially by third party software
- shortrounddev2 3y ago
  Depends on what you do. When I'm out in public on my laptop, I'm not browsing the internet so much as I'm coding, and I only really use the internet to google things and use ChatGPT
  - kalleboo 3y ago
    On a desktop OS software is more likely to try to auto-update large software packages in the background (think auto-updating the 6 GB of Photoshop, 100 GB games in Steam...), whereas software on a smartphone OS is more aware of what is a "cheap" data connection or an expensive one. macOS does have this concept but I would be that most third-party software doesn't check.
- tambourine_man 3y ago
  That’s the thing, besides the hardware, there would need to be a lot of work in the OS (and maybe apps to some extent). The assumption of unlimited data transfer is pervasive on non-mobile (we need a better name for that, something that encompasses desktop and laptop. PC?)
  - callalex 3y ago
    That work was all done around 2015 or so. MacOS has had the concept of a Metered Connection for many years now. The first party software all behaves as you would expect, and there are APIs that expose the information to third party software as well.
    - tambourine_man 3y ago
      Can you elaborate? Never heard of such a thing. If anything, macOS seems to be loosing network features, such as the network location casualty in the recent System Preferences -> Settings reboot.
      - kalleboo 3y ago
        If you hit "Network Settings" on a Wi-Fi network in Settings, there's an option called "Low data mode" > macOS seems to be loosing network features, such as the network location casualty That was an oversight (as it remained in other parts of the OS...) and came back on the next point release of the OS.
        tambourine_man 3y ago
        Indeed, thanks. I don't know if that will be enough, though. iOS has more granular settings for cellular data than a simple toggle. How will it reduce data usage? What services are allowed?

You could get 15GB for $20 on Mint, but I already don’t use up that data on my phone so

paxys 3y ago

15GB would last half a day on a non-mobile OS.

wlesieutre 3y ago
There’s a low data mode which is supposed to prevent it from downloading unnecessary stuff until you’re on an unmetered connection, but I have no clue how well supported it is, especially by third party software
shortrounddev2 3y ago
Depends on what you do. When I'm out in public on my laptop, I'm not browsing the internet so much as I'm coding, and I only really use the internet to google things and use ChatGPT
- kalleboo 3y ago
  On a desktop OS software is more likely to try to auto-update large software packages in the background (think auto-updating the 6 GB of Photoshop, 100 GB games in Steam...), whereas software on a smartphone OS is more aware of what is a "cheap" data connection or an expensive one. macOS does have this concept but I would be that most third-party software doesn't check.
tambourine_man 3y ago
That’s the thing, besides the hardware, there would need to be a lot of work in the OS (and maybe apps to some extent). The assumption of unlimited data transfer is pervasive on non-mobile (we need a better name for that, something that encompasses desktop and laptop. PC?)
- callalex 3y ago
  That work was all done around 2015 or so. MacOS has had the concept of a Metered Connection for many years now. The first party software all behaves as you would expect, and there are APIs that expose the information to third party software as well.
  - tambourine_man 3y ago
    Can you elaborate? Never heard of such a thing. If anything, macOS seems to be loosing network features, such as the network location casualty in the recent System Preferences -> Settings reboot.
    - kalleboo 3y ago
      If you hit "Network Settings" on a Wi-Fi network in Settings, there's an option called "Low data mode" > macOS seems to be loosing network features, such as the network location casualty That was an oversight (as it remained in other parts of the OS...) and came back on the next point release of the OS.
      - tambourine_man 3y ago
        Indeed, thanks. I don't know if that will be enough, though. iOS has more granular settings for cellular data than a simple toggle. How will it reduce data usage? What services are allowed?