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Why is it only trying to detect ads when the user agent is Firefox? https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17zdpkl/this_behaviour_from_google_is_beyond_disg

Why is it only trying to detect ads when the user agent is Firefox? https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17zdpkl/this_behaviour_from_google_is_beyond_disgusting/ https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17zdpkl/this_behav...

lifthrasiir 3y ago
I have no idea because I didn't experience anything like that both in Chrome and in Firefox (both with uBO though). But I'm confident that this particular code is not related to the actual slowdown, if it did happen to some Firefox users, because I received the same code even in Chrome.
pgt 3y ago
I would suspect because Google can do the detection in Chrome itself, but not in Firefox.
dash2 3y ago
Does Firefox allow a wider range of plugins, including adblockers?
- TexanFeller 3y ago
  Yes, Chrome is severely hobbled in this by comparison.
- GTP 3y ago
  Yes, there are plenty. You can have a look here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
timeon 3y ago
This is just anecdote, but sometimes (especially when I'm on slower internet) Safari + AdGuard will have glitch [0] on YouTube. Never happened with Firefox + Ublock Origin. [0] Unable to press play and showing image with Ad instead.
- c-fe 3y ago
  I experience the same glitch and i like it because you can just reload the page (cmd-r) and then the video starts so if you're used to it you can skip ads within less than a second and you dont get annoyed by the ad sound/video, just an image.
GuB-42 3y ago
Probably because there are other methods for Chrome that don't apply to Firefox. Like when I noticed that some sites did some URL rewriting trickery on Firefox and others browsers, but not for Chrome. The trick is to show you the proper URL the link points to, but as you click, it is substituted for one that is a redirection, for tracking purposes (ex: "https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http:://actualsite https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http:://actualsite..."). On Chrome, they don't need to use these tricks as the browser supports the "ping" attribute of links, so they can do their tracking without rewriting the URL.
- Thiez 3y ago
  Wow, that is pretty disgusting behavior.
  - shadowgovt 3y ago
    The web developer interprets missing features as damage and polyfills around them.
- shantara 3y ago
  I've also noticed this behavior popping up a lot lately, but I had no idea why. The URL with tracking included was still blocked by uBlock Origin, but having to manually copy-paste the relevant portion was an annoyance. Thanks for the context!
  - seba_dos1 3y ago
    Check out ClearURLs extension.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  This kind of BS is why I don't ever click on links directly. I copy/paste them instead, so I can examine and trim them. Often, the actual link is through some sort of redirection service and I need to copy/paste the text the browser shows for the link rather than the actual link. There's so much trickery and nonsense around this stuff that no link is safe to just click on.

lifthrasiir 3y ago

I have no idea because I didn't experience anything like that both in Chrome and in Firefox (both with uBO though). But I'm confident that this particular code is not related to the actual slowdown, if it did happen to some Firefox users, because I received the same code even in Chrome.

pgt 3y ago

I would suspect because Google can do the detection in Chrome itself, but not in Firefox.

dash2 3y ago

Does Firefox allow a wider range of plugins, including adblockers?

TexanFeller 3y ago
Yes, Chrome is severely hobbled in this by comparison.
GTP 3y ago
Yes, there are plenty. You can have a look here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/

timeon 3y ago

This is just anecdote, but sometimes (especially when I'm on slower internet) Safari + AdGuard will have glitch [0] on YouTube. Never happened with Firefox + Ublock Origin. [0] Unable to press play and showing image with Ad instead.

c-fe 3y ago
I experience the same glitch and i like it because you can just reload the page (cmd-r) and then the video starts so if you're used to it you can skip ads within less than a second and you dont get annoyed by the ad sound/video, just an image.

GuB-42 3y ago

Probably because there are other methods for Chrome that don't apply to Firefox. Like when I noticed that some sites did some URL rewriting trickery on Firefox and others browsers, but not for Chrome. The trick is to show you the proper URL the link points to, but as you click, it is substituted for one that is a redirection, for tracking purposes (ex: "https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http:://actualsite https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http:://actualsite..."). On Chrome, they don't need to use these tricks as the browser supports the "ping" attribute of links, so they can do their tracking without rewriting the URL.

Thiez 3y ago
Wow, that is pretty disgusting behavior.
- shadowgovt 3y ago
  The web developer interprets missing features as damage and polyfills around them.
shantara 3y ago
I've also noticed this behavior popping up a lot lately, but I had no idea why. The URL with tracking included was still blocked by uBlock Origin, but having to manually copy-paste the relevant portion was an annoyance. Thanks for the context!
- seba_dos1 3y ago
  Check out ClearURLs extension.
JohnFen 3y ago
This kind of BS is why I don't ever click on links directly. I copy/paste them instead, so I can examine and trim them. Often, the actual link is through some sort of redirection service and I need to copy/paste the text the browser shows for the link rather than the actual link. There's so much trickery and nonsense around this stuff that no link is safe to just click on.