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You can bring abundance to the world as a for profit entity. The exchange of services and goods in a market is positive-sum.
by konschubert 3y ago
You can bring abundance to the world as a for profit entity.
The exchange of services and goods in a market is positive-sum.
- dgb23 3y agoFree exchange obviously and provably is, but that's not _quite_ what's going on. I see a rapid trend towards regulatory capture, monopolization and setting up to siphon out money. All from the same few actors. And if history around tech hype serves us well, then we should be wary of a large, inflated bubble that is going to burst eventually, even if useful things are created meanwhile.
- konschubert 3y agoIt’s sad and disheartening to me how controversial this is.
- bart_spoon 3y ago> The exchange of services and goods in a market is positive-sum. As long as you ignore externalities, yes.
- konschubert 3y agoEven if you consider all externalities, trade is positive-sum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum_thinking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum_thinking
- greenie_beans 3y agoi'm legitimately trying to understand your position. can you please explain to me how trade that contributes to climate change is positive sum?
- konschubert 3y agoWhy should all trade contribute to climate change? If I have a solar panel factory, and I sell you a panel, so you can make green electricity - isn't that good for you, me AND the planet?
- greenie_beans 3y agolol ok. dunno if you're trying to deflect or genuinely being serious.
- konschubert 3y agoWhat is your point again?
- greenie_beans 3y agoi'm curious to hear an argument about how trade is always positive sum like you claimed with this comment: > Even if you consider all externalities, trade is positive-sum. even if the business pollutes the environment or contributes to climate change in an outlier way?
- konschubert 3y agoI didn't say that all trade is positive-sum. I said that some is. You're arguing a straw man. Which means your reading comprehension is bad or you're intentionally mudding the waters. Either way, I think we're good here.
- greenie_beans 3y agoyou clearly said "trade is positive sum" multiple times. you never qualified that only "some is" until now. pretty sure my comprehension is spot on. and i'm not arguing anything. i'm asking a question. in which case, ironically, your reading comprehension missed that.