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What is Sam's actual value re: AI and not just as a CEO/salesman-evangelist to get funding, which Microsoft doesn't need? Is he particularly apt at leading/man

by mighmi 3y ago

What is Sam's actual value re: AI and not just as a CEO/salesman-evangelist to get funding, which Microsoft doesn't need? Is he particularly apt at leading/managing research teams? OpenAI's slow productization doesn't imply he's a product/idea guy a la Jobs.

omarfarooq 3y ago
The exodus of personnel behind him.
rashidrafeek 3y ago
To pull out engineers from OpenAI?
alvis 3y ago
Leadership - To stay top of the game, you can't just rely on brunch of engineers, but a person/team to pull everything into shape. Seeing how many employees are leaving for sama, you get the sense.
- bananapub 3y ago
  what leadership? what examples of his leadership have been visible to the outside world? as far as I can tell, his entire career was: 1. failed startup 1. YC staff member 1. very creepy cryptocurrency grifter 1. openai ceo where has he demonstrated such enormous value?
  - andrejguran 3y ago
    the last one in your list
    - bananapub 3y ago
      what observable value has he displayed? he's just the ceo, he's not designing or implementing products, and I don't think I've ever even seen him say anything particularly insightful in public. can you link me to something particularly impressive? I must be missing something based on the huge amount of praise people heap on him, but no one ever seems to elaborate on why.
  - glimshe 3y ago
    In the last day this site has been all about him. That goes to tell you the mindshare he commands. This was a major victory orchestrated by Satya.
    - bananapub 3y ago
      > In the last day this site has been all about him. I don't know what you mean? having lots of HN posts about you doesn't show leadership, it at most shows fanboyism amongst HN posters.
    - piva00 3y ago
      That just means he is popular in HN, doesn't say much more than that in regards to leadership, etc. Being popular doesn't mean someone is efficient, or even has any merits apart from being able to become popular (Kardashians come to mind).
chucke1992 3y ago
Public perception and connections.
aiman3 3y ago
that is what i thought, when Sam was fired, i think he is kind of people can be replaced by AI generated something ( ai-ceo ), not that complicate compare to engineer or scientist. and another replaceable one is Satya Nadella. and the ai-ceo maybe much less evil than them, since they are the one convert ( i am not sure if they committed fraud ) the non-profit, open source entity to for-profit and closed source entity.
- pro212 3y ago
  yeah, Elon Musk invested tons of money to start openai as non-profit to make sure this openai thing is for all, not for couple of people to shine themself.
gexla 3y ago
At the least, probably a good PR move for MS. It's a good move to counter whatever weight would be going against the MS stock price given they made a huge investment into OpenAI.
- omarfarooq 3y ago
  Precisely why this was all announced into the early morning hours of Monday.
  - Racing0461 3y ago
    Makes sense why this was posted now. I hope openai knows what they are doing. They have angered the man that turned microsoft from the dinosaur into the asteroid.
karmasimida 3y ago
Leadership People believe his vision of AI That is it
sys_64738 3y ago
There's an implication that he's more of a leader than just pure lucky. Sort of more like Bill Gates than Zuck I guess.
John7149 3y ago
Likely being groom to take over Satya 10 years from now.

by mighmi 3y ago

omarfarooq 3y ago

The exodus of personnel behind him.

rashidrafeek 3y ago

To pull out engineers from OpenAI?

alvis 3y ago

Leadership - To stay top of the game, you can't just rely on brunch of engineers, but a person/team to pull everything into shape. Seeing how many employees are leaving for sama, you get the sense.

bananapub 3y ago
what leadership? what examples of his leadership have been visible to the outside world? as far as I can tell, his entire career was: 1. failed startup 1. YC staff member 1. very creepy cryptocurrency grifter 1. openai ceo where has he demonstrated such enormous value?
- andrejguran 3y ago
  the last one in your list
  - bananapub 3y ago
    what observable value has he displayed? he's just the ceo, he's not designing or implementing products, and I don't think I've ever even seen him say anything particularly insightful in public. can you link me to something particularly impressive? I must be missing something based on the huge amount of praise people heap on him, but no one ever seems to elaborate on why.
- glimshe 3y ago
  In the last day this site has been all about him. That goes to tell you the mindshare he commands. This was a major victory orchestrated by Satya.
  - bananapub 3y ago
    > In the last day this site has been all about him. I don't know what you mean? having lots of HN posts about you doesn't show leadership, it at most shows fanboyism amongst HN posters.
  - piva00 3y ago
    That just means he is popular in HN, doesn't say much more than that in regards to leadership, etc. Being popular doesn't mean someone is efficient, or even has any merits apart from being able to become popular (Kardashians come to mind).

chucke1992 3y ago

Public perception and connections.

aiman3 3y ago

that is what i thought, when Sam was fired, i think he is kind of people can be replaced by AI generated something ( ai-ceo ), not that complicate compare to engineer or scientist. and another replaceable one is Satya Nadella. and the ai-ceo maybe much less evil than them, since they are the one convert ( i am not sure if they committed fraud ) the non-profit, open source entity to for-profit and closed source entity.

pro212 3y ago
yeah, Elon Musk invested tons of money to start openai as non-profit to make sure this openai thing is for all, not for couple of people to shine themself.

gexla 3y ago

At the least, probably a good PR move for MS. It's a good move to counter whatever weight would be going against the MS stock price given they made a huge investment into OpenAI.

omarfarooq 3y ago
Precisely why this was all announced into the early morning hours of Monday.
- Racing0461 3y ago
  Makes sense why this was posted now. I hope openai knows what they are doing. They have angered the man that turned microsoft from the dinosaur into the asteroid.

karmasimida 3y ago

Leadership People believe his vision of AI That is it

sys_64738 3y ago

There's an implication that he's more of a leader than just pure lucky. Sort of more like Bill Gates than Zuck I guess.

John7149 3y ago

Likely being groom to take over Satya 10 years from now.