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if hot shot startup folks don't want to work there, why would they even go there? If you're flat broke, you need a job; they're not flat broke, they don't need

if hot shot startup folks don't want to work there, why would they even go there? If you're flat broke, you need a job; they're not flat broke, they don't need a job. The deal at MS is worth it, or it's not, it's not something they need to decide over the course of a weekend... unless it's what they were already not being candid about.

sekai 3y ago
> if hot shot startup folks don't want to work there, why would they even go there MSFT may have offered them a lucrative offer to join (for the time being) in order to alleviate the potential stock dump.
- tsunamifury 3y ago
  Sam is already post money rich. Lucrative isn’t in this equation
  - fsckboy 3y ago
    >Sam is already post money rich. Lucrative isn’t in this equation i totally agree, except stupid-lucrative is still in the equation, like Elon Musk rich, not because of the money, but because it says "my electric cars did more to stop global warming than anything you've done" whether this round of AI turns into AGI doesn't precisely matter, it's on the way and it's going to be big, who wouldn't want their name attached to it.
akmarinov 3y ago
Microsoft have access to the gold mine and with a bit of time Altman can get enough gold to open a jewelry business
- estomagordo 3y ago
  How? It's not like he expect to just walk out of there with models or data?
  - akmarinov 3y ago
    If it’s under Microsoft’s umbrella - sure he can
gzer0 3y ago
It is the only way they can continue the work they have already contributed at OpenAI. Otherwise, it would mean they spend months or up to a year training their own model which in this arms race isn't feasible with viable competitors like Anthropic closing the gap quickly. This was the only way forward. I'm sure Sam Altman + Greg were offered an incredibly lucrative deal and autonomy.
- fsckboy 3y ago
  it's been 2 days, they haven't even heard all the possible offers. Microsoft hasn't offered anybody autonomy since billg granted it to himself. Even Myhyrvold never did anything autonomous till he resigned and wrote a cookbook. The closest thing to autonomous in Microsoft was neilk breathing enough new life into 16bit Windows to get them to abandon OS/2

sekai 3y ago

> if hot shot startup folks don't want to work there, why would they even go there MSFT may have offered them a lucrative offer to join (for the time being) in order to alleviate the potential stock dump.

tsunamifury 3y ago
Sam is already post money rich. Lucrative isn’t in this equation
- fsckboy 3y ago
  >Sam is already post money rich. Lucrative isn’t in this equation i totally agree, except stupid-lucrative is still in the equation, like Elon Musk rich, not because of the money, but because it says "my electric cars did more to stop global warming than anything you've done" whether this round of AI turns into AGI doesn't precisely matter, it's on the way and it's going to be big, who wouldn't want their name attached to it.

akmarinov 3y ago

Microsoft have access to the gold mine and with a bit of time Altman can get enough gold to open a jewelry business

estomagordo 3y ago
How? It's not like he expect to just walk out of there with models or data?
- akmarinov 3y ago
  If it’s under Microsoft’s umbrella - sure he can

gzer0 3y ago

It is the only way they can continue the work they have already contributed at OpenAI. Otherwise, it would mean they spend months or up to a year training their own model which in this arms race isn't feasible with viable competitors like Anthropic closing the gap quickly. This was the only way forward. I'm sure Sam Altman + Greg were offered an incredibly lucrative deal and autonomy.

fsckboy 3y ago
it's been 2 days, they haven't even heard all the possible offers. Microsoft hasn't offered anybody autonomy since billg granted it to himself. Even Myhyrvold never did anything autonomous till he resigned and wrote a cookbook. The closest thing to autonomous in Microsoft was neilk breathing enough new life into 16bit Windows to get them to abandon OS/2