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Satya will probably allow them to run a startup under the MS umbrella without interference and with full MS backing.
by mirzap 3y ago
Satya will probably allow them to run a startup under the MS umbrella without interference and with full MS backing.
- dagmx 3y agoI really don’t think that’s in the Microsoft DNA to do
- mirzap 3y agoThis is not Ballmer era. It's Satya.
- jampekka 3y agoThis is not Melkor era. It's Sauron.
- mirzap 3y agoAs I was saying, Satya justt confirmed it: https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/1726516824597258569 https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/1726516824597258569
- toomuchtodo 3y agoThis was inevitable and the only path forward. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38318205 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38318205 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38337522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38337522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38342882 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38342882
- ctvo 3y agoSaying it and doing it are very different things. Many huge, lumbering companies have a “startup” lab. Few have done anything of note, and typically it’s because the reasons that made the company move slow and not take risks don’t magically disappear because you’re in a different part of the org chart.
- capableweb 3y agoIf anything, the examples in that tweet shows the opposite. GitHub and Mojang both done lots of things that wouldn't happen if they weren't now Microsoft, especially GitHub which is only "GitHub" by name at this point, none of the original spirit is still there.
- mirzap 3y agoGitHub is a great example of how an OpenAI team can thrive under Microsoft. Github has drastically improved and has never been better.
- htrp 3y ago100% agree
- scythe 3y agoMicrosoft is not just any huge, lumbering company, though. It has probably the best history of research of any pure software company (leaving aside IBM etc): Microsoft Research funded Haskell behind the scenes for years, they had a quantum computing unit in 2006, and already in 2018 were beating the field in AI patents and research: https://www.forbes.com/sites/louiscolumbus/2019/01/06/microsoft-leads-the-ai-patent-race-going-into-2019/?sh=3a0a479744de https://www.forbes.com/sites/louiscolumbus/2019/01/06/micros... Believing that OpenAI is MSFT's sole move in the AI space would be a serious error.
- stingraycharles 3y agoI believe Microsoft R&D has always been a widely respected and culturally “different” org than the rest of the Microsoft org.
- cal85 3y agoSure but this situation overrrides that. Sam has a lot of bargaining power.
- jimsimmons 3y agoHow will equity and compensation work AI peeps are not cheap
- manc_lad 3y agomultiple ways to make that work. LTIPs, share options, direct equity in subsidiary etc
- jimsimmons 3y agoMSFT comp is shit though OAI comp was high based on equity and its crazy valuations
- saagarjha 3y agoIs Microsoft compensation for top AI talent also bad?
- adw 3y agoReceived wisdom has been “not competitive”. I wonder how the MSR folk feel about all of this, too.
- realprimoh 3y agoMicrosoft comp is actually not bad at higher levels, which I assume will be given to all OAI people that will join.
- discordance 3y agoFor us maybe, but they have pulled off some high profile hires in the past… Brendan Burns (one of the main k8s guys) for example.
- jacooper 3y agoOpenAI never gave equity.
- sekai 3y agoYeah... Not really how a mega-corp like MSFT does things. They LOVE to have control.
- mongol 3y agoWas not the Xbox team kinda run like that?
- jonbell 3y agoIt’s not 1998 anymore, you’d be surprised
- karmasimida 3y agoIt is Satya we are talking about, I won't bet against him.
- DANmode 3y agoMicrosoft is not a pyramid organization, but distributed into teams - like Google, for better or for worse.
- rizky05 3y ago[dead]
- saagarjha 3y agoMicrosoft seems to be the best of the mega-corps at that.
- doikor 3y agoThe game studios under Xbox run quite independently with the most extreme example being Mojang with Minecraft which still releases all their games on Playstation/Nintendo consoles too. But the other studios are also very independent based on all the interviews (though they don't in general release their games on Playstation or Switch) As I understand Github is also run very independently from Microsoft in general.
- realprimoh 3y ago
- esskay 3y agoHighly unlikely. Instead they'll be working on internal Windows AI tools for chatbots and random AI features in Windows. We all lose in this situation.
- beoberha 3y agoThere’s no chance Sam is joining Microsoft to be some “VP of AI” to drive strategy like that. He’s going to be driving some new business where he’ll be able to move quickly and have a ton of control.
- mirzap 3y agoAs I was saying, Satya just confirmed it: https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/1726516824597258569 https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/1726516824597258569
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