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This actually seems like a decent compromise. Sam and Greg can retain velocity on the product side without having to spin up a whole new operation in direct co
by gog-ma-gog 3y ago
This actually seems like a decent compromise. Sam and Greg can retain velocity on the product side without having to spin up a whole new operation in direct competition with their old levers of power, and Ilya + co can remain in possession of the keys to the kingdom.
- AbrahamParangi 3y agoIlya and co are going to get orphaned, there’s no point to the talent they have if they intend to slow things down so it’s not like they’ll remain competitive. The capacity that MSFT was going to sell to OpenAI will go to the internal team.
- thunkshift1 3y agoMaybe they want it that way and want to move on from all the LLM hype that was distracting them from their main charter of pushing the boundaries of AI research? If yes, then they succeeded handsomely
- ps256 3y ago"Don't get distracted by the research which actually produces useful things"
- aneutron 3y agoMaybe I'm reading too much into it, but for me it is us framed as if they won't be working on GPT-based products, but on research. The whole thing reads like this to me: "In hindsight, we should've done more due diligence before developing a hard dependency on an organization and its product. We are aware that this was a mistake. To combat this, we will do damage control and continue to work with OpenAI, while developing our in-house solution and ditching this hard dependency. Sam & Co. will reproduce this and it will be fully under our control. So rest assured dear investors."
- nga911 3y agoHow do you conduct research with sales people? even if they manage to bring in researchers from OpenAI, the only gain here is microsoft getting some of the researchers behind the products and/or product developers.
- morgante 3y agoWho are these "sales people" you're referring to? Surely not Greg Brockman, one of the most talented engineers in the world.
- lucubratory 3y agoHe has technical skill, you don't need to oversell him. He's not Ilya.
- laserlight 3y ago> Greg Brockman, one of the most talented engineers in the world. Can you help me understand how you came to the conclusion?
- morgante 3y agoPeople who worked with him at OpenAI and Stripe.
- icelancer 3y agoAh yes, Greg Brockman, former CTO of Stripe (amongst other things)... sales person.
- aneutron 3y agoWell, the same way a man with drive, discipline and money but very little in the way of technical expertise can build a company. Sometimes you need someone who can drive a project and recruit the right people for the project. That person does not always need to be a subject matter expert.
- Satam 3y agoExcept they only had AI model velocity and not product velocity. The user-side implementation of chatGPT is actually quite below what would be expected based on their AI superiority. So the parts that Sam & Greg should be responsible for are actually not great.
- user_named 3y agoI wonder if they'll get bored working on Copilot in PowerPoint
- antupis 3y agoThis is kind of true, I think programming even codellama or gpt3.5 is more than enough and gpt-4 is very nice but what is missing is good developer experience, and copy-pasting to the chat window is not that.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 3y agoIf I recall correctly, Mira Murati was actually the person responsible for productizing GPT into a Chatbot. Prior to that, OpenAI's plan was just to build models and sell API access until they reach AGI. I know there's a lot of talk about Ilya, but if Sam poaches Mira (which seems likely at this point), I think OpenAI will struggle to build things people actually want, and will go back to being an R&D lab.
- sgillen 3y agoJust curious what do you think is bad about the user side experience of chatgpt? It seems pretty slick to me and I use it most days.