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Cruise did exactly the wrong thing by folding under pressure and stopping all operations. Appeasing your critics simply doesn't work. The appeasement alienates

Cruise did exactly the wrong thing by folding under pressure and stopping all operations. Appeasing your critics simply doesn't work. The appeasement alienates your supporters while doing nothing to change the minds of your critics as is amply demonstrated in this thread and elsewhere. Cruise's cars were almost certainly not more dangerous than human driven cars. The CYA bureaucrats have taken over and there is no place for a founder at Cruise anymore. IMO Cruise's fatal mistake was choosing San Francisco. It was hubris to think that they could change the minds of a populace and government clearly set on hating everything to do with tech. There are probably a bunch of cities that would be proud to host self-driving cars, rather than antagonistic. Things could have played out differently.

dbt00 3y ago
Uber had huge supporters in Phoenix and that didn't save them there. Cruise did the wrong thing by lying to government regulators.
- modeless 3y ago
  Uber folded too. They lost their founder before that happened and the whole self driving division was probably running on inertia. Clearly the new management wasn't interested because they sold it soon after.
- bobsomers 3y ago
  > Cruise did the wrong thing by lying to government regulators. This is exactly the core problem. It wasn't the crash. Regulators expect there to be problems with new technology, but they want to do deep investigations when they happen so everyone can learn from them. This could had been a great learning moment for Cruise, the regulators, the rest of the AV industry, and the general public. But then Cruise lied to the regulators, which is a HUGE no no. They don't take kindly to industry trying to hide information like that.
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ohhnoodont 3y ago
I like this take. The situation involving a women under a Cruise was initiated by a hit-and-run driver throwing her directly into the path of the Cruise. Given what I've seen in San Francisco, if it weren't a Cruise behind that car, there would have two hit-and-runs.
- sangnoir 3y ago
  > if it weren't a Cruise behind that car, there would have two hit-and-runs. As opposed to one hit-and-run followed up by a hit-and-drag-on-tarmac. If I were that poor woman, I know which I'd rather endure: I think a human driver would have the decency to back-up first.

dbt00 3y ago

Uber had huge supporters in Phoenix and that didn't save them there. Cruise did the wrong thing by lying to government regulators.

modeless 3y ago
Uber folded too. They lost their founder before that happened and the whole self driving division was probably running on inertia. Clearly the new management wasn't interested because they sold it soon after.
bobsomers 3y ago
> Cruise did the wrong thing by lying to government regulators. This is exactly the core problem. It wasn't the crash. Regulators expect there to be problems with new technology, but they want to do deep investigations when they happen so everyone can learn from them. This could had been a great learning moment for Cruise, the regulators, the rest of the AV industry, and the general public. But then Cruise lied to the regulators, which is a HUGE no no. They don't take kindly to industry trying to hide information like that.

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ohhnoodont 3y ago

I like this take. The situation involving a women under a Cruise was initiated by a hit-and-run driver throwing her directly into the path of the Cruise. Given what I've seen in San Francisco, if it weren't a Cruise behind that car, there would have two hit-and-runs.

sangnoir 3y ago
> if it weren't a Cruise behind that car, there would have two hit-and-runs. As opposed to one hit-and-run followed up by a hit-and-drag-on-tarmac. If I were that poor woman, I know which I'd rather endure: I think a human driver would have the decency to back-up first.