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Crazy how a 4 person board staved off pressure from a behemoth like Microsoft

by shippintoboston 3y ago

__turbobrew__ 3y ago
As we speak Satya is on his way to turn off OpenAI servers.
acl777 3y ago
they prolly played the: "we've got GPT-5" card :-)
dougmwne 3y ago
They may be king of the ash pile. Trust seems to have been broken with investors, Microsoft, the staff and the developer community at large. I expect them to continue to be relevant, but just one of the chorus, no longer the leader.
karmasimida 3y ago
It will be funny if MSFT relicense GPT4 to Sam's new venture, I am very much looking forward to this development.
- sudosysgen 3y ago
  I'm pretty sure only OpenAI (the non-profit) holds the IP. I don't see why they'd give Microsoft a transferable license.
- pyrophane 3y ago
  MS doesn't own GPT4
mupuff1234 3y ago
The options were probably either resign and be on the crosshairs of SV royalty for the rest of their careers or stay and play it out.
LudwigNagasena 3y ago
What can Microsoft do? Tell OpenAI they break their long-term agreement just because?..
- karmasimida 3y ago
  Microsoft hasn't released all its investment into OpenAI, and I think this could trigger some special contingency in their agreement to stopping doing so. I think one thing is for certain: OpenAI now, won't worth that much any more.
  - LudwigNagasena 3y ago
    Maybe they can. Maybe they can't. We don't even know if "the talks" to return Sama were just investors writing angry emails to Ilya and him replying "nuh-ah".
- halfjoking 3y ago
  This is what happens... https://twitter.com/gfodor/status/1725750082119811537 https://twitter.com/gfodor/status/1725750082119811537
Barrin92 3y ago
the entire organisational structure of openAI was literally designed for exactly that. Like Mozilla, the for-profit arm of the company is legally subject to the non-profit.
frabcus 3y ago
This could all be good for Microsoft. Microsoft want OpenAI to do research, and give them the model to run on Azure. They certainly don't need OpenAI competing in consumer products. ChatGPT could have been a Micrsoft product in an only slightly different timeline. And they'd rather they didn't compete in API serving, they'd rather everyone currently using OpenAI had to shift to Azure.
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  This hinges on Open ai being as forthcoming with new models as they previously were. I'm not sure that's going to happen. Certainly the new board will be more inherently against it. Not sure what outs they have though besides the obvious one.

Crazy how a 4 person board staved off pressure from a behemoth like Microsoft

__turbobrew__ 3y ago

As we speak Satya is on his way to turn off OpenAI servers.

acl777 3y ago

they prolly played the: "we've got GPT-5" card :-)

dougmwne 3y ago

They may be king of the ash pile. Trust seems to have been broken with investors, Microsoft, the staff and the developer community at large. I expect them to continue to be relevant, but just one of the chorus, no longer the leader.

karmasimida 3y ago

It will be funny if MSFT relicense GPT4 to Sam's new venture, I am very much looking forward to this development.

sudosysgen 3y ago
I'm pretty sure only OpenAI (the non-profit) holds the IP. I don't see why they'd give Microsoft a transferable license.
pyrophane 3y ago
MS doesn't own GPT4

mupuff1234 3y ago

The options were probably either resign and be on the crosshairs of SV royalty for the rest of their careers or stay and play it out.

LudwigNagasena 3y ago

What can Microsoft do? Tell OpenAI they break their long-term agreement just because?..

karmasimida 3y ago
Microsoft hasn't released all its investment into OpenAI, and I think this could trigger some special contingency in their agreement to stopping doing so. I think one thing is for certain: OpenAI now, won't worth that much any more.
- LudwigNagasena 3y ago
  Maybe they can. Maybe they can't. We don't even know if "the talks" to return Sama were just investors writing angry emails to Ilya and him replying "nuh-ah".
halfjoking 3y ago
This is what happens... https://twitter.com/gfodor/status/1725750082119811537 https://twitter.com/gfodor/status/1725750082119811537

Barrin92 3y ago

the entire organisational structure of openAI was literally designed for exactly that. Like Mozilla, the for-profit arm of the company is legally subject to the non-profit.

frabcus 3y ago

This could all be good for Microsoft. Microsoft want OpenAI to do research, and give them the model to run on Azure. They certainly don't need OpenAI competing in consumer products. ChatGPT could have been a Micrsoft product in an only slightly different timeline. And they'd rather they didn't compete in API serving, they'd rather everyone currently using OpenAI had to shift to Azure.

famouswaffles 3y ago
This hinges on Open ai being as forthcoming with new models as they previously were. I'm not sure that's going to happen. Certainly the new board will be more inherently against it. Not sure what outs they have though besides the obvious one.