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This all sounds like somebody with an anti-Israel bias… According to the article, the original report aired on the Israeli Educational Television show Vacuum:

This all sounds like somebody with an anti-Israel bias… According to the article, the original report aired on the Israeli Educational Television show Vacuum: https://www.timesofisrael.com/ethiopian-women-claim-israel-forced-them-to-use-birth-control-before-letting-them-immigrate/amp/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/ethiopian-women-claim-israel-f... The anchor interviewed Ethiopian women who said they thought the shots were vaccinations. “The women claimed Israeli representatives from the Joint Distribution Committee (JDC) and the Health Ministry told them that raising large families is especially difficult, that it is for hard people with many children to find work and support their families, and that many landlords would not be willing to rent apartments to large families.” This is from Times Of Israel, not Al Jazeera.

compsciphd 3y ago
The original reporting in 2012 was done by the open and free media in Israel who try to improve Israel. The article posted today by "Chris Jeffries" on medium and then posted here, is meant to be propaganda against Israel in the intent to destroy it. looking at post history, almost every single post made by that user has been killed here. Most not on Israel. Which would indicate propeganda user without real value.
zoky 3y ago
> The anchor interviewed Ethiopian women who said they thought the shots were vaccinations. I'm gonna have to call bullshit here. And honestly, it's kind of racist and sexist bullshit. 1) How does anybody believe that the “vaccinations” they are being given have to be re-administered every three months? 2) Why would these “vaccinations” only apply to women? Do you think the women getting these injections are too stupid to notice that, for whatever reason, their husbands and sons aren't required to get them? 3) Depo-Provera is known to reduce or eliminate womens' periods, as are most forms of birth control when taken constantly throughout the menstrual cycle. Do you really think these women are so out of touch with their own bodies that they wouldn't realize that, hey, something just might be wrong, when they haven't gotten their periods in months or years? Unfortunately, to believe the story as stated above, you have to accept at least one, and possibly all, of these statements at face value. And I fail to see how anybody could accept any of these statements at face value, unless you believe that Ethiopian (read, “Black”) women are generally less intelligent than the rest of humanity, either due to their gender or race. I'm not trying to be critical of you personally, because I know it's hard to see things from the perspective of another sociological position. But before ascribing viewpoints to a race or gender other than your own, you really should look at things from their point of view, while assuming that they are at least as intelligent as you are while doing so.
- kevinventullo 3y ago
  1. COVID boosters were given every six months. 2. There are plenty of preventative treatments that differ between men and women. It is clear from the reporting that there was a concerted government policy to encourage Ethiopian women to have fewer or no children. The women themselves said they didn’t understand what the shots did. But yeah, the reporters calling attention to this horrific policy are the racist ones, got it.
  - zoky 3y ago
    > 1. COVID boosters were given every six months. That’s still way less frequently than every three months. And honestly, that was a really big deal at the time, and there was nothing comparable before that. A vaccine being required every three months, indefinitely, is implausible. And it’s a stupid plan, too; how would they ensure all of these women were compliant with getting the “vaccine” every three months? Vaccine uptake rates are low enough as it is. The only way to ensure women would reliably continue to get these injections is if they are something they actively want—i.e., birth control. > 2. There are plenty of preventative treatments that differ between men and women. You can’t seriously expect tens of thousands of women to be injected with birth control and not have any idea of what’s going on. What about when their periods stop and they’re somehow not pregnant? Oh, gee, that’s weird. Guess my daughter and I better keep going back to get these “vaccinations” every three months that my husband and son don’t need for whatever reason. > It is clear from the reporting that there was a concerted government policy to encourage Ethiopian women to have fewer or no children. Apparently you didn’t read the article, because it’s actually not clear at all that there was any such policy. It literally says: > However, there is no clear evidence indicating that the Israeli government or humanitarian organizations involved purposefully coerced women into receiving injections in an effort to reduce birth rates. > The women themselves said they didn’t understand what the shots did. No, they didn’t. Nobody said they didn’t understand that these shots were, in fact, birth control. Some women may not have understood what the side-effects were, or that there were other options for birth control. > But yeah, the reporters calling attention to this horrific policy are the racist ones, got it. I don’t see how anyone can in good faith call this a policy, much less a “horrific” one. And, yes, to believe that such a policy could have been successful in its supposed goals requires one to believe that tens of thousands of immigrant women were foolish enough to unquestioningly take these “vaccines” every three months despite the obvious changes to their bodies and fertility. In other words, one would have to hold blatantly racist and sexist beliefs for the story to be plausible on its face.

compsciphd 3y ago

The original reporting in 2012 was done by the open and free media in Israel who try to improve Israel. The article posted today by "Chris Jeffries" on medium and then posted here, is meant to be propaganda against Israel in the intent to destroy it. looking at post history, almost every single post made by that user has been killed here. Most not on Israel. Which would indicate propeganda user without real value.

zoky 3y ago

> The anchor interviewed Ethiopian women who said they thought the shots were vaccinations. I'm gonna have to call bullshit here. And honestly, it's kind of racist and sexist bullshit. 1) How does anybody believe that the “vaccinations” they are being given have to be re-administered every three months? 2) Why would these “vaccinations” only apply to women? Do you think the women getting these injections are too stupid to notice that, for whatever reason, their husbands and sons aren't required to get them? 3) Depo-Provera is known to reduce or eliminate womens' periods, as are most forms of birth control when taken constantly throughout the menstrual cycle. Do you really think these women are so out of touch with their own bodies that they wouldn't realize that, hey, something just might be wrong, when they haven't gotten their periods in months or years? Unfortunately, to believe the story as stated above, you have to accept at least one, and possibly all, of these statements at face value. And I fail to see how anybody could accept any of these statements at face value, unless you believe that Ethiopian (read, “Black”) women are generally less intelligent than the rest of humanity, either due to their gender or race. I'm not trying to be critical of you personally, because I know it's hard to see things from the perspective of another sociological position. But before ascribing viewpoints to a race or gender other than your own, you really should look at things from their point of view, while assuming that they are at least as intelligent as you are while doing so.

kevinventullo 3y ago
1. COVID boosters were given every six months. 2. There are plenty of preventative treatments that differ between men and women. It is clear from the reporting that there was a concerted government policy to encourage Ethiopian women to have fewer or no children. The women themselves said they didn’t understand what the shots did. But yeah, the reporters calling attention to this horrific policy are the racist ones, got it.
- zoky 3y ago
  > 1. COVID boosters were given every six months. That’s still way less frequently than every three months. And honestly, that was a really big deal at the time, and there was nothing comparable before that. A vaccine being required every three months, indefinitely, is implausible. And it’s a stupid plan, too; how would they ensure all of these women were compliant with getting the “vaccine” every three months? Vaccine uptake rates are low enough as it is. The only way to ensure women would reliably continue to get these injections is if they are something they actively want—i.e., birth control. > 2. There are plenty of preventative treatments that differ between men and women. You can’t seriously expect tens of thousands of women to be injected with birth control and not have any idea of what’s going on. What about when their periods stop and they’re somehow not pregnant? Oh, gee, that’s weird. Guess my daughter and I better keep going back to get these “vaccinations” every three months that my husband and son don’t need for whatever reason. > It is clear from the reporting that there was a concerted government policy to encourage Ethiopian women to have fewer or no children. Apparently you didn’t read the article, because it’s actually not clear at all that there was any such policy. It literally says: > However, there is no clear evidence indicating that the Israeli government or humanitarian organizations involved purposefully coerced women into receiving injections in an effort to reduce birth rates. > The women themselves said they didn’t understand what the shots did. No, they didn’t. Nobody said they didn’t understand that these shots were, in fact, birth control. Some women may not have understood what the side-effects were, or that there were other options for birth control. > But yeah, the reporters calling attention to this horrific policy are the racist ones, got it. I don’t see how anyone can in good faith call this a policy, much less a “horrific” one. And, yes, to believe that such a policy could have been successful in its supposed goals requires one to believe that tens of thousands of immigrant women were foolish enough to unquestioningly take these “vaccines” every three months despite the obvious changes to their bodies and fertility. In other words, one would have to hold blatantly racist and sexist beliefs for the story to be plausible on its face.