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Everyone laughed at Tesla for their gung-ho, vision-only approach. Only Waymo and Cruise will make it, they said. Will be very interesting to see who is left

Everyone laughed at Tesla for their gung-ho, vision-only approach. Only Waymo and Cruise will make it, they said. Will be very interesting to see who is left standing. Maybe Tesla will never crack self-driving, but an insolvent company definitely won't either.

rmason 3y ago
My first thought was that Ford and Stellantis have been given a golden opportunity to catch up. But that's only if they realize that's the case.
qgin 3y ago
Very few have said Tesla isn’t good at selling cars and making a profit. They’re very good at that. I don’t think many people said Tesla would go out of business. What people said was that Tesla had made the decision to go vision-only because they wanted to start selling FSD packages 8 years ago when LiDAR was very expensive to tack onto a consumer car. Now LiDAR is much cheaper and getting cheaper by the day, but they insist on doubling down on this strategy.
- vkou 3y ago
  > Now LiDAR is much cheaper and getting cheaper by the day, but they insist on doubling down on this strategy. Meanwhile, as an occasional tesla passenger, I get to enjoy watching the car's representation of the surrounding traffic have artifacts, like: 1. Cars disappearing, re-appearing, and disappearing again. 2. Trucks and buses slowly drifting until they phase 'into' other cars when traffic is stopped at a streetlight. It's a fantastic advertisement against self-driving.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    Indeed, I've watched some of those onboard videos of the model that the self driving software generates on the fly of the road around it and compared it to what is actually out there. The discrepancies are very noticeable and make you wonder what kind of quality control they have there. Bike is there. Bike disappears. A couple of seconds later bike suddenly re-appears, but much closer than before. You can't do proper trajectory planning if your environment representation isn't accurate.
  - rossjudson 3y ago
    My Tesla's SquiggleVision is emphatically disconcerting. Who thought the update speeds of these displays were a good idea?
KerrAvon 3y ago
Everyone is still laughing at Tesla for their vision-only approach.

rmason 3y ago

My first thought was that Ford and Stellantis have been given a golden opportunity to catch up. But that's only if they realize that's the case.

qgin 3y ago

Very few have said Tesla isn’t good at selling cars and making a profit. They’re very good at that. I don’t think many people said Tesla would go out of business. What people said was that Tesla had made the decision to go vision-only because they wanted to start selling FSD packages 8 years ago when LiDAR was very expensive to tack onto a consumer car. Now LiDAR is much cheaper and getting cheaper by the day, but they insist on doubling down on this strategy.

vkou 3y ago
> Now LiDAR is much cheaper and getting cheaper by the day, but they insist on doubling down on this strategy. Meanwhile, as an occasional tesla passenger, I get to enjoy watching the car's representation of the surrounding traffic have artifacts, like: 1. Cars disappearing, re-appearing, and disappearing again. 2. Trucks and buses slowly drifting until they phase 'into' other cars when traffic is stopped at a streetlight. It's a fantastic advertisement against self-driving.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  Indeed, I've watched some of those onboard videos of the model that the self driving software generates on the fly of the road around it and compared it to what is actually out there. The discrepancies are very noticeable and make you wonder what kind of quality control they have there. Bike is there. Bike disappears. A couple of seconds later bike suddenly re-appears, but much closer than before. You can't do proper trajectory planning if your environment representation isn't accurate.
- rossjudson 3y ago
  My Tesla's SquiggleVision is emphatically disconcerting. Who thought the update speeds of these displays were a good idea?

KerrAvon 3y ago

Everyone is still laughing at Tesla for their vision-only approach.