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To the surprise of no one. This is on the back of GM appointing a Chief Administrative Officer to “work with” the CEO after their recent controversies. One unfo

by ra7 3y ago

To the surprise of no one. This is on the back of GM appointing a Chief Administrative Officer to “work with” the CEO after their recent controversies. One unfortunate accident (though Cruise was at fault for making it worse) has put the entire company in disarray. I suppose it’s the result of accumulation of so many minor issues in San Francisco and a lack of a strict safety culture. It feels like a repeat of Uber from a few years ago that ended with shuttering of their self driving initiative.

w10-1 3y ago
> One unfortunate accident I think it was covering up for the accident that caused regulators to pull the plug. If that were traced directly to the CEO, then he's out for good reason. Otherwise, the CEO likely has to take the fall anyway to satisfy regulators who want consequences for executives who don't ensure regulatory submissions are credible.
- ra7 3y ago
  Oh yeah, they’re definitely guilty of trying to cover it up. But I suspect Cruise was already on CA DMV’s bad books after having so many publicized issues in SF and this was just the last straw.
  - SR2Z 3y ago
    Many of the "publicized" issues in SF are entirely made up; see the "Cruise blocks an ambulance" incident, which SFFD had to recant as soon as Cruise started showing video to journalists. It's a shame they tried to hide it in this situation. They could have had a relatively smooth rise if they hadn't; a few years of awkward coexistence with robot cars is a small price to pay for the benefits of (almost totally) freeing humans from the task of driving. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a Cruise has still never avoidably struck a pedestrian. Even when there have been V2V crashes, the overwhelming majority were caused by poor driving from humans.
- oulu2006 3y ago
  This^ Trust is very important and if you can't trust your CEO to do the right thing and comply with regulations you haven't got anything.
catgary 3y ago
Yeah, maybe I’m a gatekeeper, but he just seems to fundamentally lack the credentials I would expect for the CTO of a self-driving car company. I know, startup culture, hackers, blah blah blah. But seriously - had he ever worked in the automobile industry? Shipped a major AI product? Dealt with safety-critical systems?

by ra7 3y ago

w10-1 3y ago

> One unfortunate accident I think it was covering up for the accident that caused regulators to pull the plug. If that were traced directly to the CEO, then he's out for good reason. Otherwise, the CEO likely has to take the fall anyway to satisfy regulators who want consequences for executives who don't ensure regulatory submissions are credible.

ra7 3y ago
Oh yeah, they’re definitely guilty of trying to cover it up. But I suspect Cruise was already on CA DMV’s bad books after having so many publicized issues in SF and this was just the last straw.
- SR2Z 3y ago
  Many of the "publicized" issues in SF are entirely made up; see the "Cruise blocks an ambulance" incident, which SFFD had to recant as soon as Cruise started showing video to journalists. It's a shame they tried to hide it in this situation. They could have had a relatively smooth rise if they hadn't; a few years of awkward coexistence with robot cars is a small price to pay for the benefits of (almost totally) freeing humans from the task of driving. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a Cruise has still never avoidably struck a pedestrian. Even when there have been V2V crashes, the overwhelming majority were caused by poor driving from humans.
oulu2006 3y ago
This^ Trust is very important and if you can't trust your CEO to do the right thing and comply with regulations you haven't got anything.

catgary 3y ago

Yeah, maybe I’m a gatekeeper, but he just seems to fundamentally lack the credentials I would expect for the CTO of a self-driving car company. I know, startup culture, hackers, blah blah blah. But seriously - had he ever worked in the automobile industry? Shipped a major AI product? Dealt with safety-critical systems?