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> Trump is a populist You see? I didn't need to mention him. As I wrote he is the most obvious one. :-) But the truth is that the US doesn't have an history o

> Trump is a populist You see? I didn't need to mention him. As I wrote he is the most obvious one. :-) But the truth is that the US doesn't have an history of populist demagogues as rich as 3rd world countries. There is Trump and nothing as him before. Italy might be a first world country. But it's political institutions are very dysfunctional.

lossolo 3y ago
> But the truth is that the US doesn't have an history of populist demagogues as rich as 3rd world countries. There is Trump and nothing as him before. The US had a good economy for many decades, while 3rd world countries did not. This led to more desperation in those countries. In the last 1-2 decades, jobs have been shipped from the US to other countries due to globalization, leaving some people feeling left behind. The US now has the highest inequality since 100 years[1]. While not being part of that group, I understand the concerns of those who voted the way they did, as desperation is a strong motivator. 1. https://media.newyorker.com/photos/590951552179605b11ad2f98/master/pass/chart-01.jpg https://media.newyorker.com/photos/590951552179605b11ad2f98/...
wslh 3y ago
You can see a lot more populists than Trump in US even if they were not elected yet.
Dalewyn 3y ago
>But the truth is that the US doesn't have an history of populist demagogues as rich as 3rd world countries. There is Trump and nothing as him before. George Washington, literally the first POTUS, was as populist as he could be. Likewise Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Theodore Roosevelt; they are all on Mt. Rushmore because they were popular both at the time of their elections and during and after their tenures. Benjamin Franklin was also popular with the people even though he never held a public office as prominent as POTUS; Franklin's political roles were much more subdued, such as his time as Postmaster-General or the ambassador to France.
- reducesuffering 3y ago
  populist doesn't mean popular. That you don't understand these political terms speaks well on the competence of Milei supporters. There is simultaneously left wing populism and right wing populism at the same time, yet not both can be a majority.

lossolo 3y ago

> But the truth is that the US doesn't have an history of populist demagogues as rich as 3rd world countries. There is Trump and nothing as him before. The US had a good economy for many decades, while 3rd world countries did not. This led to more desperation in those countries. In the last 1-2 decades, jobs have been shipped from the US to other countries due to globalization, leaving some people feeling left behind. The US now has the highest inequality since 100 years[1]. While not being part of that group, I understand the concerns of those who voted the way they did, as desperation is a strong motivator. 1. https://media.newyorker.com/photos/590951552179605b11ad2f98/master/pass/chart-01.jpg https://media.newyorker.com/photos/590951552179605b11ad2f98/...

wslh 3y ago

You can see a lot more populists than Trump in US even if they were not elected yet.

Dalewyn 3y ago

>But the truth is that the US doesn't have an history of populist demagogues as rich as 3rd world countries. There is Trump and nothing as him before. George Washington, literally the first POTUS, was as populist as he could be. Likewise Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Theodore Roosevelt; they are all on Mt. Rushmore because they were popular both at the time of their elections and during and after their tenures. Benjamin Franklin was also popular with the people even though he never held a public office as prominent as POTUS; Franklin's political roles were much more subdued, such as his time as Postmaster-General or the ambassador to France.

reducesuffering 3y ago
populist doesn't mean popular. That you don't understand these political terms speaks well on the competence of Milei supporters. There is simultaneously left wing populism and right wing populism at the same time, yet not both can be a majority.