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Yes. Just like sexuality, racisism and sexism are part of what it means to be human. They are all natural instincts. Suppressing them is leading to the same sor

Yes. Just like sexuality, racisism and sexism are part of what it means to be human. They are all natural instincts. Suppressing them is leading to the same sort of dysfunction that sexual suppression lead to in the Victorian age. That said, in the same way it's not healthy for society to be full of sexual deviants, it's also not healthy for it to be full of flaming racists. Moderation in all things, but nothing wrong with a little here and there.

lapcat 3y ago
> Moderation in all things, but nothing wrong with a little here and there. Would you say the same about rape, violence, and murder? Those seem like "natural instincts". Nothing wrong with a little here and there? I would dispute that racism and sexism are "just like" sexuality, and I would also dispute that all "natural instincts", you might call them animal instincts, ought to be accepted and encouraged. One of the great accomplishments of humanity is to rise above our animal instincts and become, at least temporarily, rational and enlightened. Sex is necessary for the propagation of the species, and when done right, it's consensual to all parties and also pleasurable, harming nobody. Can you say the same about racism and sexism?
- intalentive 3y ago
  Not sure how you define sexism, but more traditional patriarchal groups have higher birth rates and more social cohesion. In the long run those traits propagate themselves. The stereotypical cat lady, not so much. As far as racism, it may not propagate the species but surely it helps propagate those genetically closer to oneself. Isn’t in-group preference pretty common? Don’t need to be EO Wilson or Richard Dawkins to see why.
  - lapcat 3y ago
    > Not sure how you define sexism How do you define sexism? I'm not sure how the "stereotypical cat lady" is even relevant. > more traditional patriarchal groups have higher birth rates I don't think we need higher birth rates at this point, with over 8 billion humans on Earth already. > As far as racism, it may not propagate the species but surely it helps propagate those genetically closer to oneself. Isn’t in-group preference pretty common? Romantic preferences are not racism. Would you say that failure to be bisexual is sexism? (Spoiler: it's not.) It's crucial to recognize, though, that romantic preferences are entirely subjective. If you consider your romantic preferences to be objectively superior humans and those who aren't to your preference objectively inferior humans who deserve a lower rank in society, that would be racism and/or sexism.
  - melagonster 3y ago
    Richard Dawkins said biologists don't offer any indication of ethics. we made by evolution and nature doesn't mean we should live as beast.
    - patrick451 3y ago
      With no god, why not? It doesn't matter one way or the other.
fragmede 3y ago
> it's not healthy for society to be full of sexual deviants I'm under the impression that homosexuality is largely accepted in the western world, and that largely, western society hasn't been destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah.
pauldenton 3y ago
Seeking of suppression of desire and sexual deviants, is that what you would tell to people who want to change their gender? Would you tell them it would be healthier for society if they didn't become transgender?
- fioiu 3y ago
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lapcat 3y ago

> Moderation in all things, but nothing wrong with a little here and there. Would you say the same about rape, violence, and murder? Those seem like "natural instincts". Nothing wrong with a little here and there? I would dispute that racism and sexism are "just like" sexuality, and I would also dispute that all "natural instincts", you might call them animal instincts, ought to be accepted and encouraged. One of the great accomplishments of humanity is to rise above our animal instincts and become, at least temporarily, rational and enlightened. Sex is necessary for the propagation of the species, and when done right, it's consensual to all parties and also pleasurable, harming nobody. Can you say the same about racism and sexism?

intalentive 3y ago
Not sure how you define sexism, but more traditional patriarchal groups have higher birth rates and more social cohesion. In the long run those traits propagate themselves. The stereotypical cat lady, not so much. As far as racism, it may not propagate the species but surely it helps propagate those genetically closer to oneself. Isn’t in-group preference pretty common? Don’t need to be EO Wilson or Richard Dawkins to see why.
- lapcat 3y ago
  > Not sure how you define sexism How do you define sexism? I'm not sure how the "stereotypical cat lady" is even relevant. > more traditional patriarchal groups have higher birth rates I don't think we need higher birth rates at this point, with over 8 billion humans on Earth already. > As far as racism, it may not propagate the species but surely it helps propagate those genetically closer to oneself. Isn’t in-group preference pretty common? Romantic preferences are not racism. Would you say that failure to be bisexual is sexism? (Spoiler: it's not.) It's crucial to recognize, though, that romantic preferences are entirely subjective. If you consider your romantic preferences to be objectively superior humans and those who aren't to your preference objectively inferior humans who deserve a lower rank in society, that would be racism and/or sexism.
- melagonster 3y ago
  Richard Dawkins said biologists don't offer any indication of ethics. we made by evolution and nature doesn't mean we should live as beast.
  - patrick451 3y ago
    With no god, why not? It doesn't matter one way or the other.

fragmede 3y ago

> it's not healthy for society to be full of sexual deviants I'm under the impression that homosexuality is largely accepted in the western world, and that largely, western society hasn't been destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah.

pauldenton 3y ago

Seeking of suppression of desire and sexual deviants, is that what you would tell to people who want to change their gender? Would you tell them it would be healthier for society if they didn't become transgender?

fioiu 3y ago
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