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Left vs. right is the wrong way to view the world. It should freedom vs. authoritarianism. Argentinians had socialism for so long they actually elected a self-d

Left vs. right is the wrong way to view the world. It should freedom vs. authoritarianism. Argentinians had socialism for so long they actually elected a self-described anarcho capitalist! Incredible

wahnfrieden 3y ago
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- monero-xmr 3y ago
  In broad strokes the libertarian split on abortion comes down to the right of the unborn child vs. the right of the mother. A very rich vein of debate.
  - WalterBright 3y ago
    Libertarian philosophy offers no guidance on the abortion issue, so you'll see libertarians split on it.
- omnimus 3y ago
  Sidenote anarcho-capitalism is not related to anarchism. If anything its on the most opossite spectrum. Where anarchism general goal is dissolving hiearchies/power/authority. Anarcho-capitalism goal is creating pure unrestricted capitalism system with single master hiearchy/power/authority - money. If he is truly anarcho-capitalist he should be ok with people having abortions. As long they can pay for it.
- School-Cotton 3y ago
  > Anti-abortion law requires there be a state that cages people for violating it. Doesn’t any criminal law require this? How is abortion special?
- proc0 3y ago
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yowzadave 3y ago
I think corruption muddles everything—you can have both left-wing (Argentina) and right-wing (Russia) governments that become increasingly less able to meet the needs of their citizens due to corruption; also, the patterns of corruption tend to endure through transitions in government.
- monero-xmr 3y ago
  You didn’t read my statement! Russia is authoritarian / the opposite of free. I don’t like the left / right axis. If you can’t call the leader of your country and asshole on TV then your country isn’t free.
  - yowzadave 3y ago
    I read your comment—I was agreeing with an aspect of what you wrote. But you said that we shouldn’t see things as left vs right, but then proceeded to equate “socialism” with “authoritarianism” which seemed like exactly the thing you were arguing against. There are many functional, non-authoritarian socialist countries. What do they have in common?
    - nec4b 3y ago
      >>There are many functional, non-authoritarian socialist countries. Can you name one?
      - synecdoche 3y ago
        I second this.
      - yowzadave 3y ago
        https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/01/27/norway-is-far-more-socialist-than-venezuela/ https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/01/27/norway-is-fa...
        3y ago
1letterunixname 3y ago
1 dimensional, binary thinking is a myopic viewpoint a priori. There is much more gray, in numerous dimensions, including the degrees of wisdom and efficacy.

Left vs. right is the wrong way to view the world. It should freedom vs. authoritarianism. Argentinians had socialism for so long they actually elected a self-described anarcho capitalist! Incredible

wahnfrieden 3y ago

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monero-xmr 3y ago
In broad strokes the libertarian split on abortion comes down to the right of the unborn child vs. the right of the mother. A very rich vein of debate.
- WalterBright 3y ago
  Libertarian philosophy offers no guidance on the abortion issue, so you'll see libertarians split on it.
omnimus 3y ago
Sidenote anarcho-capitalism is not related to anarchism. If anything its on the most opossite spectrum. Where anarchism general goal is dissolving hiearchies/power/authority. Anarcho-capitalism goal is creating pure unrestricted capitalism system with single master hiearchy/power/authority - money. If he is truly anarcho-capitalist he should be ok with people having abortions. As long they can pay for it.
School-Cotton 3y ago
> Anti-abortion law requires there be a state that cages people for violating it. Doesn’t any criminal law require this? How is abortion special?
proc0 3y ago
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yowzadave 3y ago

I think corruption muddles everything—you can have both left-wing (Argentina) and right-wing (Russia) governments that become increasingly less able to meet the needs of their citizens due to corruption; also, the patterns of corruption tend to endure through transitions in government.

monero-xmr 3y ago
You didn’t read my statement! Russia is authoritarian / the opposite of free. I don’t like the left / right axis. If you can’t call the leader of your country and asshole on TV then your country isn’t free.
- yowzadave 3y ago
  I read your comment—I was agreeing with an aspect of what you wrote. But you said that we shouldn’t see things as left vs right, but then proceeded to equate “socialism” with “authoritarianism” which seemed like exactly the thing you were arguing against. There are many functional, non-authoritarian socialist countries. What do they have in common?
  - nec4b 3y ago
    >>There are many functional, non-authoritarian socialist countries. Can you name one?
    - synecdoche 3y ago
      I second this.
    - yowzadave 3y ago
      https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/01/27/norway-is-far-more-socialist-than-venezuela/ https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/01/27/norway-is-fa...
      - 3y ago

1letterunixname 3y ago

1 dimensional, binary thinking is a myopic viewpoint a priori. There is much more gray, in numerous dimensions, including the degrees of wisdom and efficacy.