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> We cant imagine why US that has multiple time-zones already in a single country Are you aware the contiguous United States is three times larger than India?

• Asooka 3y ago
  > but that’s not something that will happen unilaterally and will be an especially hard sell at extreme latitudes. Not unilaterally per se, but EU parliament did vote to end it in ... 2021 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20190321IPR32107/parliament-backs-proposal-to-end-switch-between-summer-and-winter-time-in-2021 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20190321IP... . COVID kind of put those plans on the backburner. People at extreme latitudes should not care much, since for them DST does close to nothing. The parent's proposal is actually quite sound. It would be a lot more useful to have institutions switch their starting times for part of the year when it makes sense for them, rather than forcing a one-size-fits-all solution on everyone. Countries at different latitudes would be free to switch e.g. school start times at different dates depending on when sunlight shifts too far in one direction, while keeping their clocks synchronised with astronomical time. Heck, Spain basically does that already, since they're on the wrong timezone (geography dictates they should be on British time, but because of events in the '40s, they're on Central European time) - so they do everything one hour "later".
  • mulmen 3y ago
    > [...] EU whose countries are often smaller than states in India ... need so much adjustment. Why can't they, for instance, simply declare that school/offices open at 10am instead of 9am for six designated months every year instead of imposing this adjustment on the entire world. This proposal is literally one-size-fits-all. > It would be a lot more useful to have institutions switch their starting times for part of the year when it makes sense for them, rather than forcing a one-size-fits-all solution on everyone. This is exactly how it works now. But there are a lot of institutions and they aren't coordinated.
• albert_e 3y ago
  I was not arguing for a single timezone nor surprised that US has multiple timezones. the surprise was that even after multiple timezones, they need so much adjustment twice a year -- which is what I was arguing against. (to be more specific the argument was against how they go about that adjustment -- not that an adjustment is needed which is understandably due to geography and seasons) you quoted half my sentence which creates an easy strawman. > A more obvious solution would be to just stop observing DST yes that is essentially my argument too ...with an extra accommodation for folks who will argue about seasons causing wild changes in sunrise / sunset / daylight.
  • icehawk 3y ago
    Because of the comma and ellipsis "need so much adjustment" very much looks like it only applies to "...and EU whose countries are often smaller than states in India."
• eru 3y ago
  > A more obvious solution would be to just stop observing DST but that’s not something that will happen unilaterally and will be an especially hard sell at extreme latitudes. Huh, why would it not happen unilaterally? Different countries already fiddle with their daylight savings times (or absence thereof) unilaterally, and the start of DST is not synchronised across the globe anyway. So if you have two countries that start DST on different weeks that's already a hassle to deal with, and one of them going off DST altogether doesn't really add any extra hassle in their bilateral dealings.
• sznio 3y ago
  > The most recent attempt to establish one was extremely unpopular and famously stopped in 1945. that's one way to say it