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I've lived several months in an area considered to be one of the worst in Sweden, zero problems whatsoever. The standard for bad in Sweden is just pretty damn

by occz 3y ago

I've lived several months in an area considered to be one of the worst in Sweden, zero problems whatsoever. The standard for bad in Sweden is just pretty damn high.

silenced_trope 3y ago
This seems to be a problem though for migrants who go to a country from a "worse" place. "The standard for bad here isn't bad" because it was worse elsewhere. Where I live in the US we have this too where migrants who have come here don't see anything bad because where they are from was worse. They don't see what those of us that have been here from birth have seen. That standards are sliding. Yes, for you the migrant coming from a poorer place, this place is richer. But for me the native this place has become poorer. And talking about and suggesting we need to stop the backslide gets an eye-roll from the enablers.
bad_user 3y ago
Did you also experience bomb attacks? Apparently, there were over 100 bomb attacks in Sweden this year. Our Eastern European country has twice the size of Sweden's population, and we had zero bombs going off, possibly since the 90s, as I don't remember any. Gun violence is really low here too, we barely remember any that made the news. I'm sure that Sweden is a nice country to live in, I've visited it, seems great, but ignoring the crime wave is short-sighted, and I don't understand what “high standard” you're talking about.
- emj 3y ago
  I live in an area where there has been gang related gun violence and bombings; there are no neighborhoods around here where I feel unsafe. No one is ignoring it but sadly the current affairs are being used as a political tool to remove freedoms and further far right agendas. I do not know where you are from but lets say; Romania they have done an amazing job the last 30 years their homicide rate per capita has at times managed to drop below our current levels. The high standard means that there is actually still a functioning society there with stability, security and trust in police and government. While we do have problems with the money generated from drug trade and other crimes.
inglor_cz 3y ago
My friend looks basically like an Iranian (very dark wavy hair and dark eyes, but somewhat pale skin), even though he is a Czech, and lives in Stockholm. He saw blond people harassed multiple times. He says "I am quite lucky that the worst individuals consider me 'one of their own' and leave me alone. This means that I can take the metro without any precautions. But blonde girls that work with me started preferring safer commute to the office a long time ago."
- emj 3y ago
  My first hand anecdotes; we let our kids ride subways on their own in Stockholm from about 9 years old. Everyone I know use public transport, I have never heard anyone complain about this! Subways are safe. EDIT: I am sure there are problems I am not saying it is perfect
ecmascript 3y ago
What area exactly? I honestly as a swede do not believe you.
- occz 3y ago
  I understand that you find it hard to believe with your strong right-wing lean, given that it doesn't really fit your narrative.

by occz 3y ago

I've lived several months in an area considered to be one of the worst in Sweden, zero problems whatsoever. The standard for bad in Sweden is just pretty damn high.

silenced_trope 3y ago

This seems to be a problem though for migrants who go to a country from a "worse" place. "The standard for bad here isn't bad" because it was worse elsewhere. Where I live in the US we have this too where migrants who have come here don't see anything bad because where they are from was worse. They don't see what those of us that have been here from birth have seen. That standards are sliding. Yes, for you the migrant coming from a poorer place, this place is richer. But for me the native this place has become poorer. And talking about and suggesting we need to stop the backslide gets an eye-roll from the enablers.

bad_user 3y ago

Did you also experience bomb attacks? Apparently, there were over 100 bomb attacks in Sweden this year. Our Eastern European country has twice the size of Sweden's population, and we had zero bombs going off, possibly since the 90s, as I don't remember any. Gun violence is really low here too, we barely remember any that made the news. I'm sure that Sweden is a nice country to live in, I've visited it, seems great, but ignoring the crime wave is short-sighted, and I don't understand what “high standard” you're talking about.

emj 3y ago
I live in an area where there has been gang related gun violence and bombings; there are no neighborhoods around here where I feel unsafe. No one is ignoring it but sadly the current affairs are being used as a political tool to remove freedoms and further far right agendas. I do not know where you are from but lets say; Romania they have done an amazing job the last 30 years their homicide rate per capita has at times managed to drop below our current levels. The high standard means that there is actually still a functioning society there with stability, security and trust in police and government. While we do have problems with the money generated from drug trade and other crimes.

inglor_cz 3y ago

My friend looks basically like an Iranian (very dark wavy hair and dark eyes, but somewhat pale skin), even though he is a Czech, and lives in Stockholm. He saw blond people harassed multiple times. He says "I am quite lucky that the worst individuals consider me 'one of their own' and leave me alone. This means that I can take the metro without any precautions. But blonde girls that work with me started preferring safer commute to the office a long time ago."

emj 3y ago
My first hand anecdotes; we let our kids ride subways on their own in Stockholm from about 9 years old. Everyone I know use public transport, I have never heard anyone complain about this! Subways are safe. EDIT: I am sure there are problems I am not saying it is perfect

ecmascript 3y ago

What area exactly? I honestly as a swede do not believe you.

occz 3y ago
I understand that you find it hard to believe with your strong right-wing lean, given that it doesn't really fit your narrative.