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This is a reminder that the carrying capacity of a healthy planet is much less than 8 billion people and radical change will be the only solution. We could do

by d_sem 3y ago

This is a reminder that the carrying capacity of a healthy planet is much less than 8 billion people and radical change will be the only solution. We could do with fewer people. In 2000 there was ~6.1 billion and the world was just fine.

adrr 3y ago
Most of the extinctions happened when there were less than 10m people. All the large mammals and birds got wiped out during humans hunting and gathering phase.
xupybd 3y ago
In 2000 people were predicting the end of the world. They didn't think it was fine then just as much as you don't think it's fine now.
- xupybd 3y ago
  To add to that. https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1726367540354363678?t=s7W236cGBtr7oJRba9adcg&s=19 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1726367540354363678?t=s7W23...
jklinger410 3y ago
> the carrying capacity of a healthy planet is much less than 8 billion people Not sure what you are citing for this, but I would assume this is less than 8 billion people based on our current pollution and consumption rates. This stat is a mind-blowing one also considering the sheer amount of empty space still available on the planet. With good resource management and terraforming you'd think this number would be a lot larger.
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lebean 3y ago
Most of us are doing alright, relatively speaking.
abletonlive 3y ago
>In 2000 there was ~6.1 billion and the world was just fine. This entire comment is junk assertions based on nothing but this part is hilarious in particular.
nosefurhairdo 3y ago
Call me crazy, but I value 2 billion human lives above that of a few endangered bird species.
- edhelas 3y ago
  And I value 2 billions more as well. And 2 billions more. And...
- shmoe 3y ago
  They will say our arrogance did us in at some point in the next thousand years. Humans are a virus and a blight on this planet.
  - philwelch 3y ago
    You first.
    - shmoe 3y ago
      Me first what?
      - philwelch 3y ago
        When you say “humans are a virus and a blight on this planet”, there is an obvious implied “solution” to that. To which I retort: you first.
        shmoe 3y ago
        Certainly one issue where I'm a bit biased to being part of the problem. Observing things doesn't express a belief necessarily, though it is my opinion.

by d_sem 3y ago

adrr 3y ago

Most of the extinctions happened when there were less than 10m people. All the large mammals and birds got wiped out during humans hunting and gathering phase.

xupybd 3y ago

In 2000 people were predicting the end of the world. They didn't think it was fine then just as much as you don't think it's fine now.

xupybd 3y ago
To add to that. https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1726367540354363678?t=s7W236cGBtr7oJRba9adcg&s=19 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1726367540354363678?t=s7W23...

jklinger410 3y ago

> the carrying capacity of a healthy planet is much less than 8 billion people Not sure what you are citing for this, but I would assume this is less than 8 billion people based on our current pollution and consumption rates. This stat is a mind-blowing one also considering the sheer amount of empty space still available on the planet. With good resource management and terraforming you'd think this number would be a lot larger.

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lebean 3y ago

Most of us are doing alright, relatively speaking.

abletonlive 3y ago

>In 2000 there was ~6.1 billion and the world was just fine. This entire comment is junk assertions based on nothing but this part is hilarious in particular.

nosefurhairdo 3y ago

Call me crazy, but I value 2 billion human lives above that of a few endangered bird species.

edhelas 3y ago
And I value 2 billions more as well. And 2 billions more. And...
shmoe 3y ago
They will say our arrogance did us in at some point in the next thousand years. Humans are a virus and a blight on this planet.
- philwelch 3y ago
  You first.
  - shmoe 3y ago
    Me first what?
    - philwelch 3y ago
      When you say “humans are a virus and a blight on this planet”, there is an obvious implied “solution” to that. To which I retort: you first.
      - shmoe 3y ago
        Certainly one issue where I'm a bit biased to being part of the problem. Observing things doesn't express a belief necessarily, though it is my opinion.