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> I just took the train into the city, had a burger & beer, and soon I'll train back home. I have zero worries about my safety. That's also the life of million
by lm28469 3y ago
> I just took the train into the city, had a burger & beer, and soon I'll train back home. I have zero worries about my safety.
That's also the life of millions in Ukraine right now so your anecdote doesn't mean much
Looking at the statistics and historical trends paint another picture, of course this isn't El Salvador, but it doesn't mean it's going in the right direction
- mrkeen 3y ago> That's also the life of millions in Ukraine right now so your anecdote doesn't mean much You're always right to question anecdote, but I call bullshit on the comparison to Ukraine. Crimea was taken. Borders are actively shifting. Nuclear attacks were a serious threat. I half-assedly considered actions I might take if the war spilled over here in some form. But looking at the article's scary graph: the badness has a bit-over-doubled between 2014-2022. So if you were hanging out with 6 of your friends in 2014 and concerned that one of you was going to be gunned down in the next year, you should have around that same level of concern when hanging out with 2-3 of your friends in 2022.
- jojobas 3y ago>Crimea was taken. Borders are actively shifting. Sure, but one can have a beer in a city towards the West and ride a train home just the same.
- tsss 3y agoThen maybe it's time for the thousands of Ukrainian refugees to go home already?
- dh2022 3y agoI live in western Washington. In the past couple of years I met some Ukrainians - for home related remodeling, help wit cleaning and cooking. I can tell you none of these people will go back to Ukraine. Their kids are already in public schools learning English and integrating in the society.
- pretext 3y agoMaybe it’s time for thousands of Russian murderers, rapists, and pillagers to get out of Ukraine first?
- egeozcan 3y agoIf they already started a new life, aren't they already home?
- Dah00n 3y agoAsk this about Ukrainians and then ask the same about Muslims and you have a discussion, well, kinda like the one in this thread.
- selimthegrim 3y agoHoo boy wait until we get to Lipka and Crimean Tatars (the former of which have been integrated in the US for over 100 years now)