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I haven’t lived in the US so I can’t really comment on the situation there. But my point is, the US model is infecting other countries which already have minimu

I haven’t lived in the US so I can’t really comment on the situation there. But my point is, the US model is infecting other countries which already have minimum wages and don’t suffer from problem tips in the US solve (AKA, insanely low minimum wages in some states for tipped servers). Why should the minimum wage bartender at Brewdog get an automatic 10% tip when the minimum wage employee at Tesco doesn’t?

wdb 3y ago
Most fun are those places where you need to order via the website or an app and still have this automatic tip that's a pain to opt out off
qwytw 3y ago
> wages and don’t suffer from problem tips in the US solve (AKA, insanely low minimum wages in some states for tipped servers). Well many waiters earn considerably more than the minimum wage in the US. In large part because of this system. I'm not sure why does the society value their work that much (in relation to most other service workers which is of course unfair). However, essentially what you're advocating is lower wages for some service workers just because the rest are possibly overpaid?
- bobthepanda 3y ago
  in other countries, server is just a position like any other that has wage competition. a fancy restaurant will try and spend to get the high quality servers it wants.
- shortcake27 3y ago
  > essentially what you're advocating is lower wages for some service workers just because the rest are possibly overpaid? How have you arrived at that conclusion? I am arguing that a) the tip should be included in the price, and b) people should be paid a fair wage by their employer WITHOUT sneaking hidden fees onto customers. Also, I’ve made it abundantly clear I’m referring to the UK, yet you keep bringing up America. You seem determined to misunderstand me.

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I haven’t lived in the US so I can’t really comment on the situation there. But my point is, the US model is infecting other countries which already have minimu

by shortcake27 3y ago

wdb 3y ago
Most fun are those places where you need to order via the website or an app and still have this automatic tip that's a pain to opt out off
qwytw 3y ago
> wages and don’t suffer from problem tips in the US solve (AKA, insanely low minimum wages in some states for tipped servers). Well many waiters earn considerably more than the minimum wage in the US. In large part because of this system. I'm not sure why does the society value their work that much (in relation to most other service workers which is of course unfair). However, essentially what you're advocating is lower wages for some service workers just because the rest are possibly overpaid?
- bobthepanda 3y ago
  in other countries, server is just a position like any other that has wage competition. a fancy restaurant will try and spend to get the high quality servers it wants.
- shortcake27 3y ago
  > essentially what you're advocating is lower wages for some service workers just because the rest are possibly overpaid? How have you arrived at that conclusion? I am arguing that a) the tip should be included in the price, and b) people should be paid a fair wage by their employer WITHOUT sneaking hidden fees onto customers. Also, I’ve made it abundantly clear I’m referring to the UK, yet you keep bringing up America. You seem determined to misunderstand me.