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I think you missed out this part: > Housing is included

circuit 3y ago
You missed the last half of that sentence. It's a room, not a house, that you will be likely be sharing with someone else. > room in a shared apartment or house.
- arrakeenrevived 3y ago
  The target audience of volunteers for this type of position are people that are probably used to happily sleeping in tents and eating camp food for days/weeks at a time. I don't think they'd mind.
  - abluecloud 3y ago
    guess it's a race to the bottom then
    - Apocryphon 3y ago
      It’s for the self-selecting who see it as an experience, not a race.
- stephenr 3y ago
  Why would you expect it to be an entire house for one person? It's a volunteer position in a national park, not Jimmy Carters newest deal: homes for extremely introverted humans.
  - hyperhopper 3y ago
    As somebody that's enjoyed many months living exclusively in hostels: You're out of your mind. Homes should be a standard. That's like, one of the basic human wants/needs as an organism. And having the privacy of your own space is essential to the human psyche.
    - lazyasciiart 3y ago
      What?
      - hyperhopper 3y ago
        Which part are you confused about? I like to have a lock on my door.
        stephenr 3y ago
        The part where you started comparing a private room in a shared house/apartment, with a hostel.
abluecloud 3y ago
does that include food and drink?
kjlkjlkjkj 3y ago
healthcare too? and food and pension?
- seabass-labrax 3y ago
  I don't know how it works across the pond, but in Britain, some amount of volunteer activity is allowed whilst officially unemployed. This means that the country contributes National Insurance payments on your behalf so that you'll be able to receive treatment by the National Health Service and a state pension. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/volunteering-and-claiming-benefits https://www.gov.uk/guidance/volunteering-and-claiming-benefi... https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-credits/eligibility https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-credits/eligibility
  - michaelmrose 3y ago
    On this side of the pond unemployment is mostly 13-26 weeks of a fraction of the money you earned previously and requires you to be actively seeking and available for work. You can neither be volunteering nor pursuing education even if you are laid off and need training in another field. In some particularly stingy places this is as little as the equivalent of 80 pounds per week whereas rent is oft closer to 800 pounds per month. In many cases its something you receive later after weeks or months of bureaucratic wrangling after you would long ago have lost your housing if you didn't have any of your own money saved. Hell we make sure you can't exploit the system by getting food stamps or housing help while going to college even if you are poor as a church mouse. Heck we set the benefits threshold low enough that as you move from part time employment to full time employment the poorest households experience a hump where if you move to full time you may end up poorer than you started because you lose more benefits than you gain income. This is especially true if you go from free medical care to $500-$800 out of pocket. Because most professions don't involve doubling your wages regularly one has to in effect agree to take on more work to climb into greater poverty in order to work your way out the other side IF increasing costs ever let you get ahead in the first place. One of the most attractive ways OUT of permanent poverty is naturally a college education however this will almost certainly be by way of borrowing tens of thousands of dollars but since you don't qualify for benefits during your education and you need to keep eating and living inside you are liable to need to continue to work full time which creates a much higher chance of failure which stands to leave you without a degree with thousands of dollars of undischargable debt. This concludes our tour of one of the shitty parts of America.

You missed the last half of that sentence. It's a room, not a house, that you will be likely be sharing with someone else. > room in a shared apartment or house.

arrakeenrevived 3y ago
The target audience of volunteers for this type of position are people that are probably used to happily sleeping in tents and eating camp food for days/weeks at a time. I don't think they'd mind.
- abluecloud 3y ago
  guess it's a race to the bottom then
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    It’s for the self-selecting who see it as an experience, not a race.
stephenr 3y ago
Why would you expect it to be an entire house for one person? It's a volunteer position in a national park, not Jimmy Carters newest deal: homes for extremely introverted humans.
- hyperhopper 3y ago
  As somebody that's enjoyed many months living exclusively in hostels: You're out of your mind. Homes should be a standard. That's like, one of the basic human wants/needs as an organism. And having the privacy of your own space is essential to the human psyche.
  - lazyasciiart 3y ago
    What?
    - hyperhopper 3y ago
      Which part are you confused about? I like to have a lock on my door.
      - stephenr 3y ago
        The part where you started comparing a private room in a shared house/apartment, with a hostel.

abluecloud 3y ago

does that include food and drink?

kjlkjlkjkj 3y ago

healthcare too? and food and pension?

seabass-labrax 3y ago
I don't know how it works across the pond, but in Britain, some amount of volunteer activity is allowed whilst officially unemployed. This means that the country contributes National Insurance payments on your behalf so that you'll be able to receive treatment by the National Health Service and a state pension. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/volunteering-and-claiming-benefits https://www.gov.uk/guidance/volunteering-and-claiming-benefi... https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-credits/eligibility https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-credits/eligibility
- michaelmrose 3y ago
  On this side of the pond unemployment is mostly 13-26 weeks of a fraction of the money you earned previously and requires you to be actively seeking and available for work. You can neither be volunteering nor pursuing education even if you are laid off and need training in another field. In some particularly stingy places this is as little as the equivalent of 80 pounds per week whereas rent is oft closer to 800 pounds per month. In many cases its something you receive later after weeks or months of bureaucratic wrangling after you would long ago have lost your housing if you didn't have any of your own money saved. Hell we make sure you can't exploit the system by getting food stamps or housing help while going to college even if you are poor as a church mouse. Heck we set the benefits threshold low enough that as you move from part time employment to full time employment the poorest households experience a hump where if you move to full time you may end up poorer than you started because you lose more benefits than you gain income. This is especially true if you go from free medical care to $500-$800 out of pocket. Because most professions don't involve doubling your wages regularly one has to in effect agree to take on more work to climb into greater poverty in order to work your way out the other side IF increasing costs ever let you get ahead in the first place. One of the most attractive ways OUT of permanent poverty is naturally a college education however this will almost certainly be by way of borrowing tens of thousands of dollars but since you don't qualify for benefits during your education and you need to keep eating and living inside you are liable to need to continue to work full time which creates a much higher chance of failure which stands to leave you without a degree with thousands of dollars of undischargable debt. This concludes our tour of one of the shitty parts of America.