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Assaulted on a flight? Stranger danger, I guess, but this seems like a very low odds event.

1024core 3y ago
Just in the past few months alone: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/airlines-flight-sexual-assault-allegations-1.6992734 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/airlines-flight-sexua... https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article279873354.html https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article279873... https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/woman-groped-midair-5th-such-case-in-3-months/articleshow/103561243.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/woman-groped... https://nypost.com/2023/06/07/doc-allegedly-gropes-woman-on-plane-before-proposing-to-girlfriend/ https://nypost.com/2023/06/07/doc-allegedly-gropes-woman-on-... https://abc7chicago.com/delta-airlines-flight-lawsuit-sexual-assault/13579863/ https://abc7chicago.com/delta-airlines-flight-lawsuit-sexual... https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/bengaluru/51-year-old-man-held-for-molesting-minor-girl-on-flight-in-bengaluru-1232747.html https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/bengaluru/51-ye... https://news.yahoo.com/alaska-based-army-officer-charged-220500741.html https://news.yahoo.com/alaska-based-army-officer-charged-220... https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/06/23/california-man-convicted-for-assaulting-teen-girl-on-orlando-flight/ https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/06/23/californi... I could go on...
- jghn 3y ago
  How many of those involve unattended kids?
- fbdab103 3y ago
  There are ~3 million US airline passengers per day. This does not seem like it refutes the point that these are low odds. I can also probably find some news reports of cannibals nabbing people at the grocery store. Does not mean I am going to avoid shopping.
  - 1024core 3y ago
    > I can also probably find some news reports of cannibals nabbing people at the grocery store. Does not mean I am going to avoid shopping. Please find any such instances over the past 6 months and list them. If length(your list) > length(my list), you win. Yeah, this has turned into a length measuring contest.
ceejayoz 3y ago
It may be rare, but it absolutely does happen. https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article279873354.html https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article279873...
- fbdab103 3y ago
  Sure, anything can and does happen. But how many similar assaults happen annually by strangers at a Starbucks/bus/library/school? Life is a risk.
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    How many of those assign you to sit next to a stranger for many hours unless you pay an additional fee? Kids sitting alone on a plane is a very solvable problem. It used to be unheard of just a few years ago.
    - jghn 3y ago
      When I was in either 4th or 5th grade a friend of mine living in another state flew by himself to visit my family. For obvious reasons he was sitting by himself on a flight.
      - 1024core 3y ago
        Those are called "unaccompanied minors". The airline takes full responsibility for them; including having the flight attendants check on them regularly. And at the end of the flight, they are handed over to a pre-determined adult. There's a whole protocol followed.
      - ceejayoz 3y ago
        Under a certain age, this requires a fee and coordination with the airline. I did it too; a flight attendant was tasked with supervising me and I was escorted to my connection and pickup. It’s not the same thing.
- jghn 3y ago

Just in the past few months alone: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/airlines-flight-sexual-assault-allegations-1.6992734 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/airlines-flight-sexua... https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article279873354.html https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article279873... https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/woman-groped-midair-5th-such-case-in-3-months/articleshow/103561243.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/woman-groped... https://nypost.com/2023/06/07/doc-allegedly-gropes-woman-on-plane-before-proposing-to-girlfriend/ https://nypost.com/2023/06/07/doc-allegedly-gropes-woman-on-... https://abc7chicago.com/delta-airlines-flight-lawsuit-sexual-assault/13579863/ https://abc7chicago.com/delta-airlines-flight-lawsuit-sexual... https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/bengaluru/51-year-old-man-held-for-molesting-minor-girl-on-flight-in-bengaluru-1232747.html https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/bengaluru/51-ye... https://news.yahoo.com/alaska-based-army-officer-charged-220500741.html https://news.yahoo.com/alaska-based-army-officer-charged-220... https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/06/23/california-man-convicted-for-assaulting-teen-girl-on-orlando-flight/ https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/06/23/californi... I could go on...

jghn 3y ago
How many of those involve unattended kids?
fbdab103 3y ago
There are ~3 million US airline passengers per day. This does not seem like it refutes the point that these are low odds. I can also probably find some news reports of cannibals nabbing people at the grocery store. Does not mean I am going to avoid shopping.
- 1024core 3y ago
  > I can also probably find some news reports of cannibals nabbing people at the grocery store. Does not mean I am going to avoid shopping. Please find any such instances over the past 6 months and list them. If length(your list) > length(my list), you win. Yeah, this has turned into a length measuring contest.

ceejayoz 3y ago

It may be rare, but it absolutely does happen. https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article279873354.html https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article279873...

fbdab103 3y ago
Sure, anything can and does happen. But how many similar assaults happen annually by strangers at a Starbucks/bus/library/school? Life is a risk.
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  How many of those assign you to sit next to a stranger for many hours unless you pay an additional fee? Kids sitting alone on a plane is a very solvable problem. It used to be unheard of just a few years ago.
  - jghn 3y ago
    When I was in either 4th or 5th grade a friend of mine living in another state flew by himself to visit my family. For obvious reasons he was sitting by himself on a flight.
    - 1024core 3y ago
      Those are called "unaccompanied minors". The airline takes full responsibility for them; including having the flight attendants check on them regularly. And at the end of the flight, they are handed over to a pre-determined adult. There's a whole protocol followed.
    - ceejayoz 3y ago
      Under a certain age, this requires a fee and coordination with the airline. I did it too; a flight attendant was tasked with supervising me and I was escorted to my connection and pickup. It’s not the same thing.
jghn 3y ago