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And still no Mac version on the horizon.

bastard_op 3y ago
Maybe if Mac didn't make for such an anemic gaming platform with weak hardware. Even the most powerful pc's can't run this, I don't expect any arm-based platform to ever outside some hobbled mobile variant.
- dontlaugh 3y ago
  Some of the fastest CPUs you can buy are made by Apple and their GPUs are good enough. Hardware isn’t why there are few macOS games.
- dagmx 3y ago
  It actually does run reasonably on a Mac if you run it under crossover with a patched DLL [1]. Even with the overhead of multiple translation layers I’ve seen people hit 30fps as a baseline. Not saying that’s great by any means, but it’s got three translation layers at that point. Importantly, the game is largely CPU bound and that is something that the Macs are really good at. The game is really bad at taking advantage of high end GPUs but it actually scales reasonably as you go down the tiers precisely because it’s so bad at using the GPU. And yes I know it currently has bugs and comical oversights that thrash the GPU, but it does so pretty equally, seemingly responding better to more VRAM (which makes sense given the nature of their inefficiencies) I’d also push back on the “anemic” wording. A base M series Mac is probably the best iGPU performance vs Intel/amd iGPUs. And the higher end MBPs (not accounting for value) are very performance competitive against similar form factor laptops. Where they fall behind is when you start comparing against larger desktop replacement laptops or on the desktop end against the top end GPUs. But I wouldn’t call them anemic by any stretch of the imagination either. https://www.reddit.com/r/macgaming https://www.reddit.com/r/macgaming has a surprising number of people you can see messing around with running ports natively. I wouldn’t get a Mac for the express purpose of gaming but they are reasonably capable, and largely held back by lack of software not hardware. [1] https://github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky/discussions/560#discussioncomment-7566751 https://github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky/discussions/560#discuss...
- evilduck 3y ago
  M1 series is pretty solidly middle of the road hardware relative to the discrete laptop GPUs that dominate the Steam Survey results. The bigger issue to me is that gaming on Macs has a history of mutual avoidance by both gamers and gamer publishers. Neither want to invest in changing the status quo.
spacemadness 3y ago
Is that even surprising? Mac has never been a good gaming platform. It’s better to blame Apple for that.

Maybe if Mac didn't make for such an anemic gaming platform with weak hardware. Even the most powerful pc's can't run this, I don't expect any arm-based platform to ever outside some hobbled mobile variant.

dontlaugh 3y ago
Some of the fastest CPUs you can buy are made by Apple and their GPUs are good enough. Hardware isn’t why there are few macOS games.
dagmx 3y ago
It actually does run reasonably on a Mac if you run it under crossover with a patched DLL [1]. Even with the overhead of multiple translation layers I’ve seen people hit 30fps as a baseline. Not saying that’s great by any means, but it’s got three translation layers at that point. Importantly, the game is largely CPU bound and that is something that the Macs are really good at. The game is really bad at taking advantage of high end GPUs but it actually scales reasonably as you go down the tiers precisely because it’s so bad at using the GPU. And yes I know it currently has bugs and comical oversights that thrash the GPU, but it does so pretty equally, seemingly responding better to more VRAM (which makes sense given the nature of their inefficiencies) I’d also push back on the “anemic” wording. A base M series Mac is probably the best iGPU performance vs Intel/amd iGPUs. And the higher end MBPs (not accounting for value) are very performance competitive against similar form factor laptops. Where they fall behind is when you start comparing against larger desktop replacement laptops or on the desktop end against the top end GPUs. But I wouldn’t call them anemic by any stretch of the imagination either. https://www.reddit.com/r/macgaming https://www.reddit.com/r/macgaming has a surprising number of people you can see messing around with running ports natively. I wouldn’t get a Mac for the express purpose of gaming but they are reasonably capable, and largely held back by lack of software not hardware. [1] https://github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky/discussions/560#discussioncomment-7566751 https://github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky/discussions/560#discuss...
evilduck 3y ago
M1 series is pretty solidly middle of the road hardware relative to the discrete laptop GPUs that dominate the Steam Survey results. The bigger issue to me is that gaming on Macs has a history of mutual avoidance by both gamers and gamer publishers. Neither want to invest in changing the status quo.

spacemadness 3y ago

Is that even surprising? Mac has never been a good gaming platform. It’s better to blame Apple for that.